shocknet_justin
Justin (shocknet)

https://shock.network

Head of building shit | Lightning.Pub | ShockWallet.app | Lightning.Video/thecto

Public Key

npub1xvtwx6tduaxnn9v3y7uasskl277achgu0tu2qncmc7hdsz6y2zyqce64sa

NIP-05 Address

thecto@lightning.video

NIP-57 Address

thecto@lightning.video

Profile Code

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nostrue.com

nos.lol

Author Public Key

npub1xvtwx6tduaxnn9v3y7uasskl277achgu0tu2qncmc7hdsz6y2zyqce64sa

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2024-09-18 15:47:05

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Nostr is literally websockets and json, things that make up the web already.
Relays are just databases, things that make up applications already.
Just because you don't know how to scale them doesn't make them not scalable, and as far as I know there's only one developer actually working on scaling it @npub1yxp…qud4
Scale will come quickly ones its made a priority.

2024-09-11 15:41:39

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I'm fairness that's only because it's trash engineering that doesn't work, and is only being propped up by a few salaried devs funded with opaque objectives.

2024-09-11 14:12:01

https://m.primal.net/Kmql.png
#note1862…396r

2024-09-10 20:23:23

New in ShockWallet and Lightning.Pub: Static payment codes over Nostr provide a more performant, private, trustless and decentralized replacement to LNURL and Bolt12
Play around at demo.nip69.dev
https://cdn.lightning.video/bd926eaa77a9a1046afb12faabb268be925b01d952edc3ce19d092f258ea3572/4WyiE6SuFQ.mp4

2024-09-08 19:14:56

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There's comparison to Bolt12 in the PR comments, Nostr-native offers feature better performance, portability, web-friendliness, and privacy than Bolt12 offers

2024-08-27 17:54:11

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https://m.primal.net/KQKO.png

2024-08-27 17:53:57

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https://m.primal.net/KQKO.png

2024-08-26 16:14:33

On pace for a big Pub dashboard drop this week
https://m.primal.net/KOFp.png

2024-08-23 16:31:14

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Only the coins encumbered by it, they basically become bcash tokens

2024-08-23 15:04:50

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Vaulting and spending a compromised shitcoin is already possible on any other chain

2024-08-23 14:02:10

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All these shitfork proposals enable externalized consensus to pervert the incentive structure
They're funded and astroturfed by the same cabal that uses shitcoins to muddle the industry.

2024-08-23 13:58:07

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CTV is an attack on Bitcoin.

2024-08-23 13:55:54

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Ugly nips

2024-08-23 13:48:07

Nostriga was like a hackathon gone wrong.
We must save Nostr from the Nostr developers.
https://m.primal.net/KJUr.png

2024-08-22 13:40:03

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In that case I would recommend reading and watching anything written or presented by Alex Bosworth over the last 5 years
Good starting point, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlPIB6jt6ww

2024-08-22 11:39:12

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Open just a couple channels for your own/family use to save yourself chain fees, don't expect to earn routing fees and go overboard. Routing isn't for casuals.

2024-08-16 01:40:44

Just pushed a fix to get ARM installs working
#note1uw9…ew2f

2024-08-15 23:00:38

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If you're the node operator then its self-custodial, with the option to add custodial guests. The goal is to let people who prefer a custodial solution keep that as close as possible. Most people share a house/fridge/car with people already, and they'll share a node / channel too.
There's no benefit in Cashu as it's the same scenario with either... if you run your own mint then its self custody, else it's custodial.
ECash is worse UX because there's fragile gateway and settlement layer between it and real Lightning payments, and on the client side you're reintroducing bearer shitcoins thus making the worst combination of trade-offs: a custodial solution that still requires key management.
It's not that Pub is more private, it's just not less, the overall point is that you shouldn't use either for privacy as both are limited by the nodes anonset. Since a node operator has countless ways to deanonymize activity, you simply shouldn't use a custodian you don't trust and ECash doesn't make a custodian you don't trust anymore trustworthy. ECash's privacy benefits would only come at bank or government level scale which is even more dangerous because of how much oversight those mints would have into the flows of the Lightning network... this is why it's so important we make custodians small... ECash is for governments not families.

2024-08-15 17:26:04

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I should caveat that we have NOT automated watchtower setup yet, so something to consider if you'll be offline regularly

2024-08-15 17:19:21

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Most of the benefits come from it being always-on 24x7 but it won't hurt if it goes down from time to time
It'll run on Windows/Mac too but would be a manual installation
I personally recommend an old laptop with clean *buntu install, the built-in battery makes it much less likely the node gets corrupted. Since it uses neutrino a 4GB of RAM clunker with ~20GB of free disk should be adequate (would suggest an SSD at least though)

2024-08-15 16:58:29

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Cashu/ECash is a bad design choice for this usecase imo, it makes tradeoffs incompatible with fluid mass-adoptable UX because its just layering the management of a new shitcoin as opposed to direct RPC access
Save for enterprise-scale environments, Pub isn't any less private either as it uses ephemeral keys that are blind children not tied to a given identity. A user could have one or many, rotate them, etc. Also with friends/family nodes nodes the anonymity set is so low that becomes the common limiting factor... whitelisting keys would also negate any privacy benefits
If however you are already running a mint, it could conceivably serve as a backend for Pub... while we built on a single implementation to focus on security (LND) we did so in a way that adapters should be relatively simply to implement

2024-08-15 16:47:30

I heard nostr likes bush pics https://image.nostr.build/847b52281dba7579634510a7572ec1c2ca735a9d04fd2c53535c4b654cba340e.jpg https://image.nostr.build/03bd39df612a322025c9dc9ae8c6f6e55b80b5cb65de4f90f61692b32e2e4b07.jpg https://image.nostr.build/7d88b6e280921d0b4fd2b742c79bbd46ffcaa92217265ff17fadd7aead8ac581.jpg https://image.nostr.build/ab843ee47377c1891a486e68852df32037dfeb90a99c9a89b9e91e8fad6ec114.jpg

2024-08-13 18:54:11

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Yea we built Lightning.Pub around LND but in a way it shouldn't be too difficult to create adapters for other backends

2024-08-13 11:22:54

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Connects to a remote node over Nostr, can optionally start custodial and upgrade when you have enough sats or set one up from scratch in 2 minutes
#nevent1q…g052

2024-08-12 21:33:57

Still alpha, but ShockWallet is already the best Lightning wallet as a daily driver by far imo
Super fast and reliable, its not a mobile node so no waiting to boot or graph syncs that cause failures
Using Nostr real-time sync is a handy flex too, one wallet on desktop phone 🤌 https://video.nostr.build/fd3ab3cd55bed1337cf1361e14cc8dd18de279a8a2724b6a9a15244ae222d5ad.mp4

2024-08-09 02:19:33

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Kdenlive for video but it deserves the KDE desktop (Kubuntu)

2024-08-06 20:54:48

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Kinds > NIPS

2024-08-05 23:48:20

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Kinda, I think the first page you see (discover) when you land there was a waste of time for us... we did it because it's what people expected to see when visiting a video site not because it adds any real value. The overwhelming majority of our traffic is direct links to content or channel pages.
I plan on replacing it with a landing page that better explains the value prop of the site.
My long range thoughts on the direction of discovery is that ultimately everyone is a curator, who you follow should ultimately dictates what you discover, and that apps will support bring your own algorithms that recommend stuff from your extended social graph.
This won't be possible in a performant/scalable way with existing nostr clients that directly talk to the relays unfortunately. I'm hoping we'll get time to work on a indexer with reproducible results that would enable it... Once we do we'll inject it into LVa and finally get that fully Nostrfied

2024-08-05 22:11:42

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Yep the death of advertising is my thesis in lightning.video, the incentives of users paying for hosting are a micro level are much better.. nostr as the overlay for that transaction metadata is going to reshape the Internet

2024-08-05 20:43:48

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Not very familiar with SSB but im assuming it doesn't use web relays, that's the key feature inherited from our use of GUN
Enabling apps that work in any browser and solve the networking issue is and ultimately what enables distribution where lightning can't reach.. keys and data only matter where they can be delivered to

2024-08-05 18:56:09

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Obligatory contrarian Lightning Maxi take coming in hot...
Nostr's roots are as an iteration on how GUN was used in ShockWallet and Lightning Pages, as a means to have a web-friendly overlay network to connect Lightning to WebApps
This continues to the primary usecase for Nostr today even as a leaner and more flexible successor to GUN.
Users are funneled through the Lightning ecosystem for connecting LN to WebApps: Zap Signaling, NWC, kind 21000, accessing sat monetized services, and and more, is why any users are here to begin with. Heck, even these notes are about Lightning.
Without the network effect of Lightning as a native payments layer, Nostr its just another combination of websockets and json.
Anything that it's capable of is only in context of it making better Lightning Apps, because key-based identities, webservers, and json aren't otherwise novel.

2024-08-03 13:37:19

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Docker that makes sense... but ill have to look into why the script is prematurely exiting, otherwise manual install should work

2024-08-03 01:17:11

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Haven't tested it myself but it should work, LND and nodejs have arm64 builds so pub should run fine

2024-08-02 21:56:20

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CIA is the wrong framing, it's perfectly in No Such Agency's wheelhouse though
You don't have to necessarily have believe it has NSA origins, but it's fantasy that nocoiners will exploit when Bitcoiners deny that Satoshi could not be truly anonymous given their capabilities, and that every major agency has influential assets in the ecosystem
These are good things, shouldn't shy from them with nocoiners use spooks as an objection. It's actual quite an intuitive part of a multi-prong counter-offensive against globalists that would safely defuse the Triffin Dilemma before natsec is lost forever.
Patriots in control.

2024-08-02 19:06:05

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Thanks for checking it out
Definitely hope to see other wallets import our kind 21000 proto in the future, but yea they're developed tightly together as the administrators dashboard is embedded into shockwallet
It's installing LND underneath so if you want to manually manage channels that can still be done via lncli. Channel management is however WIP in the dashboard. (Triple tap the logo in the top right and it'll flip into dashboard mode if you're the administrator... not much there at the moment though)
Lots to come ahead, Nostr will be usefull for social-graph based channels, channel marketplaces, and batch coordination to drop channel open fees ~80%🤞
https://m.primal.net/JmGx.png

2024-08-02 17:24:12

You can't even get onto a KYC'd platform in 2 minutes
Setting up an Uncle Jim node for your entire family is already faster than the legacy system
#nevent1q…d9w7

2024-08-02 00:05:25

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Uncle Jim model

2024-07-30 20:57:08

Demo from Nashville.... Going from 0 to a shared Lightning Node in 2 minutes
Paste one line into an old laptop or small VPS, and connect anyone you know to it instantly
Nostr based accounts completely eliminate the fussy networking
Automatic channels from top LSP's
https://m.primal.net/JjYS.mp4

2024-07-30 20:13:34

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ShockWallet.app

2024-07-26 17:01:12

Tales of Lightning's death have been greatly exaggerated
https://image.nostr.build/ec32709fef27aa72141c6d5cf59bd3e6385c940794abbaf3e3e3aae9e3528567.jpg

2024-07-25 21:47:02

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Lightning.video

2024-07-25 12:11:24

If you're in Nashville swing by the makerspace 🤙
https://image.nostr.build/e3bb53931c54d11629d50f297759af0cd8ebd0cceda9fdd0741201ad9fee3112.jpg

2024-07-24 01:37:57

Huge milestone ⚡️🎉
1-line deployment of Lightning.Pub, a Nostr-powered Lightning Node
In this demo I set up a node, from scratch, in 2 minutes with a connection to a management dashboard as admin, and then connect another user with guest link... completely over Nostr with no tricky networking or sluggish Tor
https://m.primal.net/JcEi.mp4

2024-07-23 23:49:53

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https://lightning.video/a375ac4590e6191d8705585fc563bbdcf17781626c52e17a47a7cc1a19f420e8

2024-07-23 23:48:25

2024-07-19 19:19:44

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Seems either way you're dropping in a client, so the window.nostr probably doesn't matter in that context as you could use the sanctum client directly just as you would with nip46
We haven't broken out the widget to its own repo yet but will shortly after Nashville so you can have a look (this is powering our wallet and video site which are higher priority to get stable)

2024-07-19 18:59:33

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Why not? Should be trivial to add in an adapter function

2024-07-19 18:41:24

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Yep, the end user can still self-host a signer without trusting their key to a provider hosting the application widget and management interface

2024-07-19 18:37:09

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JWTs

2024-07-19 18:36:40

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Basically but not exactly, don't remember the details but found nip46 wouldn't be scalable as a provider due to unique listeners, and the double wrapping of the event makes for performance issues and lowers the size ceiling so we use a straight socket for the widget component
The widget itself uses nip07

2024-07-19 18:11:01

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Trying to get this out of sandbox into prod today actually
test-auth.shock.network/learn

2024-07-19 17:35:35

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Already happening but with revocable device tokens, not keys...
Must remember that not everything needs to be done galaxy brain multisig scheme

2024-07-19 15:31:35

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Also if you need to be online to assist the bunker, why not just self host?
Not clear what is additive to this

2024-07-19 15:30:02

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If you have a single client key that would defeat the value in remote signing of revocation, no?

2024-07-19 00:56:37

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It's modular so an adapter wouldn't be too hard, would accept a PR

2024-07-17 20:08:33

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It's all post-facto imitation of ShockWallet and Lightning.Pub
No shitcoins required

2024-07-17 20:00:29

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Alby Hub is a post-facto of Lightning.Pub

2024-07-14 23:17:54

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Relay hints too
#nevent1q…3jrq

2024-07-14 15:34:24

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It's ultimately an overlay network for lightning, it's only shitcoiners calling it a wallet proper
#nevent1q…wsr8

2024-07-13 16:33:15

Between zaps, nwc, and the increasingly powerful kind 21000, Nostr's clear product-market-fit is as a lightning overlay network and coordination layer... "Layer 3"
ECashers want to muddle this with shitcoins but we know shitcoiners can only imitate
ShockWallet and Lightning.Pub are the OG nLightened stack

2024-07-11 22:15:04

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Yes, it's subject to your control of a given DNS zone like any other website
That's rarely an issue though, and it's not meant for critical operations
Fedimint did something uniquely stupid in their design, and not just promoting ECash

2024-07-11 21:26:56

BIP-353 but with an nprofile 🤌

2024-07-06 16:17:55

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There's this one-liner, best for a new node on a VPS or old laptop... might work on Mac too but hasn't been tested there yet
`sudo wget -qO- https://deploy.lightning.pub | sudo bash`

2024-07-06 16:06:19

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It works with lightning.pub, which will spit out an nprofile you can then add as a source

2024-07-06 14:43:18

ShockWallet has been using Nostr to sync across apps and devices for awhile
But it does it correctly, with device tokens, a remote signer, and self-hosted nodes... Not custodial shitcoins subject to the insecurities of your NSec
The imitators see the potential but don't understand the how
https://m.primal.net/JJZY.png

2024-07-06 14:36:25

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It works through onion messages, basically Tor... which as anyone who has tried using it with Lightning can attest is too flakey for real world payments... every hop adds latency and failure probability, it's a completely retarded design
Lightning is private, and Bolt12 doesn't make it any more private... blinded paths, randomized scids, already exist... Saying Bolt12 is more private is a lie by the shitcoiners trying to attack the Lightning spec with it
Bolt12 is a Blockstream psyop to make Lightning wallets work with Fedimints

2024-07-06 14:34:31

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It's a less secure version of ShockWallet's UX that uses Nostr to sync state and device tokens... and it doesn't use flakey ecash

2024-07-06 14:33:56

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Totally back-asswards way of doing this, if ECash mints want to copy ShockWallet and Lightning Pub do it correctly with remote signing and device tokens

2024-07-06 12:18:02

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By not being an extension, it's a software remote signer, management dashboard, and widget any developer can embed

2024-07-06 00:30:55

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Yea this will just help have them not get compromised in the first place, there's no graceful way to recover from that... Gotta repoint everyone

2024-07-06 00:22:36

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Update for it coming to ShockWallet next week

2024-07-06 00:21:58

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Apps will be able to paste in a widget so no browser extensions needed, allowing for an enterprise class UX and management tools

2024-07-05 23:53:14

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Soon
test-auth.shock.network

2024-07-04 16:35:01

https://stacker.news/items/587023/r/justin_shocknet?commentId=587082

2024-07-01 17:35:53

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Less than it cost to open a lightning channel

2024-06-29 14:11:47

Pleased to announce we'll be giving Pub demo's and can help you set up a Lightning node to share with friends, families and customers, easily over Nostr.
Come see us at @TheBitcoinConf Makerspace next month!
https://image.nostr.build/ef490906fb973e2b830d8b7c15097189d4957934f99eb45800ae1a8961eb8d69.jpg

2024-06-24 23:38:28

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But they can't shut down your shitcoin -free lightning.pub

2024-06-24 23:34:56

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DNS can't rug your lightning.pub

2024-06-24 23:34:04

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DNS can't rug your lightning.pub

2024-06-24 23:32:05

DNS can't rug your lightning.pub

2024-06-24 23:25:25

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ShockWallet.app and lightning.pub been doing this awhile, without shitcoins

2024-06-24 15:26:37

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Nope, some sister cos and I'm friendly with the founders, but I'm not part of this in any way
I'd probably accept new methods PR in the kind 21000 proto, but if they want to waste their time on shitcoins they may as well waste it on NWC

2024-06-24 13:40:58

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Small brain thinking
There are ~300 undecillion ip6 addresses, each is a peer we need to scale to obviously

2024-06-24 13:15:27

Nostr is the b2b settlement layer for notes
Scaling will be done through custodial enote mints

2024-06-14 13:45:24

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This rationale highlights my issues with it
Custody of small amounts (credit) is inevitable in an economic sense, but ECash isn't additive to that at all, while ECashers position them as synonymous despite solving the wrong problems inhibiting broader adoption of Bitcoin as a MoE
It's not more programmable than any other database, it's actually much worse because of the the abstraction from the underlying asset
The privacy benefits are farcical, particularly in the context of small nodes, and treating it as a new payment spec is deleterious to interoperability
If the goal is to have shared friends and family nodes for Bitcoin as a MoE, then Lightning.Pub is superior to mints in every way

2024-06-13 21:24:36

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Sir please buy my NO-Cash Notekens

2024-06-12 21:07:12

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Not following
If you don't have money, ECash can't help you
If you do have money, ECash can't help you
Makes no sense

2024-06-10 19:33:21

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Found it very hard to find soy free feed

2024-06-06 21:45:09

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No, the argument is if you're going to trust someone, keep that trust local, as in uncle Jim... not big and centralized like an ECash mint so you can be moar private
If ECash wants to shill itself as a payment spec and as privacy, that's EDollar spook bullshit- not Uncle Jim tech

2024-06-05 13:12:56

You'll have a social page for your lightning node that sells various services and displays your trust network
The lightning graph will start to mirror the social graph
This node persona will casually coordinate channel batches to bring on the next billion nodes for practically free
The math is simple
A batch open of 50 channels runs ~2000 vbytes
144k are mined a day
That's 3M channels a day, or 1 billion a year, enough for every business and household on the planet

2024-06-01 20:07:54

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A database account can just as easily be a random set of numbers, that transacts atomically disassociated from other random numbers, logless, encrypted, and so on
There's no difference except that the database is reliable, performant, and doesn't lie to lull users into a false sense of privacy whilest slipstreaming edollars into the bitcoin ecosystem
You are 100% trusting the operator in both scenarios, and you should never trust an ECasher

2024-06-01 19:17:28

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A mint can simply not redeem a token, based on any number of heuristics
And if you're worried about your account getting nuked maybe you shouldn't be using that custodian
ECash is nothing a database account isn't, it's not any more permission-less, or private, or asynchronous, it's literally a server authentication scheme. Transferring it offline is effectively writing down your password for someone.
... claiming it's more than that is being done intentionally by the central influencer agency to astroturf new banknotes being pushed by the government

2024-06-01 19:10:16

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ECash

2024-06-01 19:09:23

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The government wouldn't be pushing it so hard if it hadn't been backdoored for 30 years
No wonder it's got such a huge marketing budget, central influencer agency working overtime on it
https://image.nostr.build/6f52f1d7dd7c549c6fa1114016b39c64b88ace3cd32f5d7b5b1d29d61fa64ae4.jpg https://image.nostr.build/d8774914b30ddab382eb87de82d8a3a95d595ce0628359b6c0edd74e8d8db39d.jpg

2024-06-01 18:56:50

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Very, very wrong.
ECash is literally a server authentication mechanism for an API for a custodial Lightning app.
Npubs, JWT's, Hashcash... all permissionless random numbers

2024-06-01 18:53:37

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Any API can be public to random numbers, that's not an ECash feature

2024-06-01 18:30:24

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For starters super just yesterday confirmed an implementation wasn't even doing basic mitigation for key tweaking (tainting mints to correlate to user metadata)
Even with that mitigated, your still trusting a server not to use its upper hand to deanonymize you... Better to just use a database you trust directly without the bullshit, can always use ephemeral keys for access
We do this using nostr notes only in lightning.pub

2024-06-01 18:18:29

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I do understand how it works, apparently you do not and have just accepted the lies told by the spooks pushing it.
I also explicitly compared to databases, which are capable of any of its properties.
The privacy elements are a farce, just because it uses signatures instead of accounts does not prevent the mint from deanonymizing you and targeting your redemption.

2024-06-01 18:09:22

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It's not private any more than an ephemeral key
It's not permissionless any more than SQL is
It's not offline, it's literally server credentials
Multi-mint === Multi account
Servers can always censor your redemption
ECash is a total larp, and a digital dollar psyop

2024-06-01 17:53:03

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Except that it's none of those things relative to a good old reliable SQL database with ephemeral key accounts