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is this site legit? i was just curious about the xmr2btc payment bridge but probably it's trust based. besides, the site doesn't even seem to work with the tor browser for whatever reason!?
#nevent1q…3hhq

2026-01-11 22:10:15 UTC

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me2, as long as we continue to stick to our principles

2026-01-09 22:19:48 UTC

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not increased, but stable, which is what you would expect from money. prices would only increase in very rare situations where you suddenly and unexpectedly experience an event like a massive amount of extraterrestrial copper entering into the earth atmosphere. bitcoin and monero don't suffer from this as long as the monetary policy stays untouched. both in btc and xmr the monetary policy is known to everyone in advance who voluntarily enters the system. and since monero inflates only in absolute terms (0.6 instead of let's say 0.6%) both systems have hard caps in the long term. even xmr people don't seem to understand that having an absolute number of unit inflation is no inflation at all in the long run.

2026-01-09 22:02:13 UTC

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it is a federation of (by the way *unknown*) key holders where a majority has to approve if you want your real money back and where you have no way of unilateral exit. this is how fedimint works and which could be built on top of monero as well if you like this model. everything else (their blockchain without any pow which makes it meaningless) is a distraction.

2026-01-09 21:55:53 UTC

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that's right. it's a product of the free market. mining more copper out of the ground doesn't cause price inflation. due to the free market and diminishing returns (remember, it's a market, not a monopoly) the copper mines cannot profit through seignorage and only dig up copper when there's market demand. digging up copper requires proof of work (you have to pay for energy consumption, machines, tools, workers). you don't profit from any seigniorage. you dig for it because there is market demand which you clear by digging up copper. and by investing your money in digging copper (and not spending it on other products which would cause prices to rise) you haven't caused any inflation at all.

2026-01-09 21:43:31 UTC

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unfortunately liquid is not only a graveyard and useless but it is not even a sidechain. it is just a company which collects bitcoin and issues its own coin. if liquid was a sidechain then wrapped btc on ethereum is a sidechain as well. liquid has no proof of work and they can rug you at any time. it's not more worth than a fedimint.

2026-01-09 21:28:11 UTC

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you can't store value, but I'll be charitable in interpreting your message. bitcoin isn't performing anymore. in fact it lost enormous purchasing power in monero terms the last two years. what is even more notable: xmr was delisted from the biggest exchanges during this time while bitcoin was shilled by the president of the usa and blackrock 😂

2026-01-09 21:22:31 UTC

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#nevent1q…gk79

2026-01-09 21:21:20 UTC

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saying "monero is vulnerable to hidden inflation" is like saying "bitcoin is vulnerable to having your coins stolen". both sentences imply the same message (the cryptography behind those techniques might be broken).

2026-01-09 21:18:03 UTC

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saifedean is not economist, rather a charlatan.

2026-01-09 21:16:53 UTC

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simple but unfortunately wrong. xmr is free market money whereas dollars are monopoly issued money which means the monopolist can charge any price he wishes (e.g. he prints a 50 pound note which in reality costs only 10 pennies). this is called seigniorage, is payed by the taxpayer and the reason for systemic price inflation. increasing units of dollars alone don't cause price inflation. since xmr is free market money, there is no seignorage and therefore no price inflation.

2026-01-08 19:49:15 UTC

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neat 💛 I wonder wether dogs are able to sniff this out?

2026-01-08 19:13:07 UTC

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yeah lol
#nevent1q…ky3n

2026-01-08 19:04:57 UTC

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bad take bro

2026-01-05 14:39:55 UTC

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no, quite the contrary. as i said in my earlier post, if you feel morally obliged to not pay your taxes for whatever reason (somalia day care centers, your government constantly waging unjust wars, living under a totally fucked up regime or just because you consider taxes theft), then bitcoin should better be able to do you a service. otherwise it would be a useless tool (which i don't think it is)

2026-01-05 14:10:58 UTC

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it might depend on where you live for sure but your answer comes as a surprise since here the very first question you'll hear when you teach about bitcoin is almost always: "how do i pay my taxes correctly?" even long time bitcoiners talk like this.... the dominating mantra is" buy bitcoin at exchange xyz, transfer it to hardware wallet, don't spend because it is going to 10,000,000 dollars soon

2026-01-05 12:08:23 UTC

paying taxes on your bitcoin holdings, transactions or' 'gains' means:
- your beloved hard cap doesn't mean anything because the government can extract as much as she wants from your "gains" up to 100% or go full 6102
- since you are declaring your transactions you can spend your bitcoin only on government approved things and also won't be able to evade capital controls
sounds familiar? it is, because it is exactly how paypal and any other government approved fin-tech or your bank account works.
so what this all boils down to is that in the end bitcoin is just evading taxes and capital controls. if you say otherwise then I'm sorry to tell you that you are just larping and bitcoin is doing nothing for you and the government is still in full control of your bitcoin. in this case you will have to continue seeking solutions in politics (which is the system we already had before bitcoin)

2026-01-05 10:27:33 UTC

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thanks. unfortunately eigenwallet didn't work at all for me. i was confronted by a mass of error messages right from start and eventually deleted it. but good old bisq worked :)

2026-01-05 10:10:02 UTC

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no anita, it's not, and you know it, but i understand that neither you nor odell as public figures can talk sincerely and openly about this topic. if this would be true, it would be really sad and render bitcoin useless

2026-01-05 10:05:26 UTC

the truth no one wants to talk about and which i find slightly annoying: it should be obvious that bitcoin is totally useless if you couldn't use it to evade taxes. as long as you pay taxes on your bitcoin (and herewith legitimize not only their fiat currency but admit that the government still owns your money and exercises control and power over you) you have achieved nothing and still fund their wars. if you can’t dodge taxes with bitcoin, you can’t use bitcoin without permission and with that bitcoin becomes useless and you may as well use their banking system again. luckily you can use bitcoin to cheat on your taxes which in my opinion is the right thing to do and which everyone should feel morally obliged to. use the evaded taxes instead to fund open source projects or humanitarian aid organizations (many of them accept bitcoin!).
#nevent1q…lhz6

2025-12-23 22:57:25 UTC

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of course there are. bitcoiners are statist cunts

2025-12-23 10:42:08 UTC

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#nevent1q…nxpf

2025-12-23 10:00:52 UTC

hi monero friends :) since bisq isn't working at the moment,what is the way to go? haveno or retoswap? (i want to swap some btc to xmr)
#xmr #bisq #haveno #retoswap

2025-08-25 19:56:57 UTC

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Vlad the Impaler gets really angry now

2025-08-25 19:46:29 UTC

Peter Todd is a fed

2025-08-25 19:44:51 UTC

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Yeah fuck off you fucking statist warmonger

2025-08-25 19:42:51 UTC

you can just repost reposted stuff fiatjaf
#nevent1q…s966

2025-08-25 19:41:22 UTC

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@nprofile…xnfk is too stupid to get it

2025-08-25 19:36:31 UTC

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But you are supposed only to use the GrapheneOS PDF Viewer!!! Anything else is so insecure!!11

2025-08-14 20:21:53 UTC

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Peter Todd says it's B.S.

2025-07-22 05:47:42 UTC

what is it with those cultish cowboys?

2025-03-08 13:55:06 UTC

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@nprofile…hde8
#nevent1q…t6uz

2025-03-08 13:53:06 UTC

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oh, ok. didnt know that. i don't use ios and on android i am using amber

2025-03-08 13:23:46 UTC

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nsec.app?

2025-03-08 13:11:11 UTC

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you are the real smuggler

2025-03-07 23:03:02 UTC

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@nprofile…waj2 ?

2025-03-07 22:50:52 UTC

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gosh. I can't stand this anymore...

2025-03-07 22:48:38 UTC

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couldn't care less about nation states and fiat mobsters like blackrock or grifters like saylor. actually i do care. seeing them feel comfortable makes me really sick and angry. we should rugpull them all by deploying some fancy shit on bitcoin which makes it non-compliant right on the protocol layer so they can eventually fuck off. sometimes i really think of this and ask myself if we would have a chance at all or would be forked off, becoming the new "bcashers". it may be already a lost battle. i don't know man. the bitcoin story seems to be told..

2025-03-07 19:35:28 UTC

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@nprofile…z774?

2025-03-07 12:33:38 UTC

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:o i didn't even know that this is possible. i always used bisq for btc-xmr-swaps. yes i use lightning and run my own ln node. thanks for the tip!

2025-03-07 11:36:39 UTC

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yes. they got me from the btc side of course. was about to swap coin-joined btc into xmr. should have used bisq for it as i always do

2025-03-06 19:16:41 UTC

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hey luke, how do you find monero?

2025-03-06 19:02:15 UTC

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yep. these bastards froze my money and wanted to shotgun-kyc me. after being very incessant and month of email exchange and threatening them with a lawyer they sent my money back. it's a shame that monerotalk is still advertising them.

2025-03-01 14:37:08 UTC

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because i prefer costumes 😂

2025-03-01 14:35:37 UTC

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yea you are welcome bro

2025-03-01 13:59:39 UTC

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your ngu doesn't work for a long time now. don't know if you haven't realized it yet. it worked good when blackrock and usa weren't in and grandmas and grandpas weren't "stacking sats" through etfs and pension funds. this isn't the niche thing anymore when stakes were incredibly high and thus were the pumps. you rest on past laurels and keep on blathering narratives from long bygone times like a cranky grandpa. your btc can't even compete with dogecoin anymore 😂 and tbh monero is doing pretty good DESPITE of being banned from almost everywhere. have some respect.

2025-02-12 13:50:48 UTC

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i feel you brother. they got you from the bitcoin side of things, right? insist on your rights. tell them they are free to step back from conducting business with you and to send the bitcoin back to the same address, but that they have no right to freeze money based on loose assumptions. good luck

2025-02-12 13:17:55 UTC

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be incessant! I finally got my money back, without KYC of course, but it's a shame that Monerotalk is still advertising these assholes

2025-02-12 13:16:05 UTC

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bitcoin is money.
so is monero.

2025-01-05 15:21:50 UTC

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i never used Bisq2, only Bisq, sorry

2025-01-05 14:10:00 UTC

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I definitely agree with you on that one! as a matter of fact this has annoyed me by far the most when i was arguing with people about kyc / nokyc in the past. kyc is a legally defined term. it is not an ambiguous term, yet people use the term arbitrarily to justify their bitcoin purchases on exchanges/brokers and quack something they picked up from their favorite influencer (>bro buying on Bisq or even with cash is kyc because they see your face and even if you cover your face they can track your cars license plate and follow you home blablabla!<) nothing more annoying than that. anyway, happy no-kyc-stacking :)

2025-01-05 13:00:54 UTC

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Robosats should do it even on degoogled smartphones like yours since it doesn't rely on any google services. just open the Tor browser and give it a go :>

2025-01-05 11:48:11 UTC

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i am not denying any of that but at least Bisq is open-source software which you can even build yourself and run it on your local machine whereas HodlHodl is just wild code running in your browser which is provided by a centralized legal entity. which one is more verifiable? you don't need the token. it is optional. i never bought or used their token. you need an initial no-kyc-stack though. nothing is 100% secure and private but it is very obvious here which of both is superior regarding privacy, security and resistance. never let perfect be the enemy of the good

2025-01-05 11:21:49 UTC

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i can assure you 100% that banknotes are not tracked. this is pure fearmongering. the serial numbers on it are bullshit. and Bisq is obviously much better than HodlHodl. no centralized servers involved, every peace of information is stored locally, no e-mail addresses needed and Tor-only. there is no need for centralized services like HodlHodl which by itself is a legal entity which has to abide by the law (which Bisq is not). as long as Bisq exists, why would anyone want to use HodlHodl. makes no sense.

2024-12-31 10:31:45 UTC

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https://www.discreetlog.com/kyc/

2024-12-31 10:12:07 UTC

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CD used to be so dope as f man... RIP

2024-12-28 14:16:17 UTC

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you're pissing against the wind my friend. it's too late. this space changed a lot within the last three or four years. greediness has eaten brain

2024-12-28 14:08:01 UTC

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hehe funny isn't it? and yet people are happy to undergo a full kyc process on Strike, River and Swan to buy bitcoin
#nevent1q…xxmh

2024-11-26 17:39:19 UTC

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a real treasury trove indeed

2024-09-08 09:20:55 UTC

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100%. i neither use their app nor would i ever import my nsec there. its remarkable how every time when they attend a podcast show no one ever is going to ask them why their app is closed-source. totally staged. and i already noticed that so far they dodged every question on nostr regarding the closed-sourceness

2024-09-08 08:46:18 UTC

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i mean, yes, but look, there are also indeed some die-hard bitcoiners out there who dedicated their lives to bitcoin but publicly admit that they also like, hold and use monero and there are many others but they keep it for themselves, probably because they don't want to get grilled from the cult

2024-08-29 20:00:51 UTC

the #ecash hype brought me into #monero 's arms. i'm grateful for that. and i know of many others but they don't admit it publicly. i don't want to be misinterpreted. there's no cynicsm here. i use ecash for small amount transactions myself and it's fun but it did help me understand that scaling is just not possible. you can't solve the trilemma and you don't have to obsessively built everything on bitcoin. with ecash you already moved so far away from bitcoin that bitcoin does basically nothing for you anymore. you now have custodians, middlemen, inflating the supply cap etc. at this point you can just use #monero , seriously.

2024-07-12 19:32:03 UTC

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ok following this logic and assuming bitcoin did a better job then 94% of the world is already onboarded on bitcoin? lol

2024-07-12 18:52:25 UTC

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refresh your tor identity a couple of times until it works

2024-07-11 20:18:38 UTC

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i guess this is a rhetorical question. of course they would not. they are more about to restrict and eventually ban there own state cash money. now why would they embrace some fancy cryptocurrencies like #bitcoin and #monero which are both permissionless and can operate outside of the regulated and surveiled financial system? if people want pernissioned money and want to subject themselves to surveillance, capital controls, taxes and inflation (which is also a tax) they are free to do so. politicians will welcome this. if politicians would endorse XMR / BTC they could just as well stop surveiling, controlling, taxing and inflating lol

2024-07-11 16:04:37 UTC

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the initial idea of satoshi was great but if you mind taking the trouble and reading some of the debates on the bitcoin talk forum there were some really serious concerns about the openness of bitcoin from the very early day on. you will find public talks about how at least the sender and receiver information could be hidden but satoshi didn't know how to implement it. maybe the tech back then didn't exist. yes, he didn't spend his coins. but this does nothing good, does it? it brings uncertainty. in fact it could be seen as a possible risk if at one point +1 million coins would awake which were considered lost before. the halving period was chosen purely arbitrarily. if it was 2 years or 8 years bitcoin wouldn't be worse or better. it's all about the public known information and predictability. this also doesn't have anything to do with low or high time preference. even if it would, low or high time preference is neither good nor bad. what is low or high time preference is subjective, depends on human individuals and can't be measured in any way. it's unimportant how fast the coins are mined. even in bitcoin 94% of the total supply is already mined. the 6% spread over the next 120 years really don't matter. as i already mentioned, it's all about predictibility. these informations were known to the public from very early on. on top of that monero has tail-emissions, so feel free to mine monero, have luck and always get 0.6 XMR + fees :) (though I'll say I don't have a strong opinion on that one. it may be OK during the bootstrapping phase).
cheers

2024-07-11 08:28:00 UTC

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yes, I'm pondering this for a long time. you know, i'm not entirely against bitcoin. it's not a scam, it can be useful, although i personally think that monero is superior. my question is more like: is it about bitcoin or freedom here? and if the latter, why are they aggressively promoting only bitcoin and not #monero as well? is tor bitcoin? is a vpn bitcoin? is linux bitcoin? is a custom ROM bitcoin? is bittorrent bitcoin? in the end, what it's all about? I really enjoyed @nprofile…89xw 's book but every chapter ended with how only bitcoin can help to bring the change which unfortunately muddied things a bit and eventually made the book look like a brochure...

2024-07-11 08:01:33 UTC

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yes, i think so. but at this point I'm not sure at all if this narrative about ngu does still hold true. bitcoin doesn't pump as hard as it did in the past for a long time. maybe this is the reason why they went for compliance, threw their ideals overboard and started worshipping spooks like saylor or fiat-mobsters like larry fink and "daddy" gensler.

2024-07-10 13:40:14 UTC

funny how almost every narrative bitcoiners tell and claim to be unique can be also applied to monero.
monero had an anonymous founder, no pre-mine and has proof-of-work.
i wonder why NGOs like #HRF are so bitcoin-centrical. sunk cost fallacy?

2024-07-10 13:35:32 UTC

i will say it again: avoid centralized swap services at all costs. #stealthex have fun spending my money you fucking robbers.
#xmr #monero

2024-07-10 13:22:04 UTC

#monero
this was the message.
thanks for your attention.

2024-06-29 16:39:23 UTC

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Congrats. To me it's the other way around. They don't have my information but my money.

2024-06-29 10:18:46 UTC

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Oh did they rob you also? 🤝

2024-06-29 10:14:11 UTC

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Then delist them. Definitely avoid StealthEX! They have frozen my BTC not a long time ago during a swap to XMR and don't give my money back to me unless I do a full KYC which I can't and won't. My btc came out of #whirlpool btw so I guess this was the issue. very sad

2024-05-18 16:35:40 UTC

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cooking tasty jam require a license? 👀

2024-05-17 17:15:47 UTC

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yes, why not? i have it almost all the time

2024-05-17 16:56:43 UTC

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yes and they soft-kyc you from the get-go these days if you want to use them in any meaningful way, nice eh?