Fabian

How Nostur handles relays and the outbox/gossip model/autopilot currently:
- When logging in for the first time, Nostur imports your existing relay configuration, or bootstraps with a preconfigured set if none can be found
- Content is fetched using that configuration, which you can then find in Settings -> "Configure your relays..."
- Content is fetched from relays with the "Receive from this relay" toggle enabled
- If a post can't be found, for example if you have a post which quotes another post, Nostur will try to find the post on relays with the "Use relay for looking up posts" toggle enabled. It will also try to find the post using relay hints if included in the post and "Follow relay hints" is enabled
- When posting, the relays with "Publish to this relay" are used to publish your content.
- If you are using multiple accounts you can exclude specific accounts from publishing to a specific relays for privacy or other reasons
When you enable Relay Autopilot the following is also done (in addition to the above):
- All the relays sets from people you follow are fetched in order to figure out where their posts can be found
- A list of relays that multiple accounts you follow have in common is calculated
- Any misconfigured relay set (there are many) is ignored by Relay Autopilot. For example if someone has configured that their posts can be found on nostr.mutinywallet.com which is a well known relay only meant for writing not reading from, their entire relay set is considered garbage and ignored.
- In the remaining list of relays, the top 3 are ignored to avoid centralization
- Content is then fetched from the remaining relays list
Any relays that return too many errors or timeouts will no longer be used by Relay Autopilot until the app is restarted.
https://media.utxo.nl/wp-content/uploads/nostr/0/7/0774d3472bca683188362ad8c25e619b0126f39e530337769b6ea05ca17df6e4.webp

2024-09-01 18:29:22

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thank you!

2024-08-31 14:09:39

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your own replies and reposts yes, not others who reply to you or repost your posts, I will probably add those too to forever storage or some other user configurable setting

2024-08-31 14:06:02

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I meant posts/notes, maybe content is the wrong word, because media is stored on the media server you choose, not local.

2024-08-31 14:04:10

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Nostur stores your own content forever, other posts where you are mentioned for 2 months, and removes anything else after 5 days.
For WoT the follow list of people you follow is also stored forever.
And recently added chats on testflight are not stored, just in memory during chat.

2024-08-29 10:57:18

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I probably don't understand what you are trying to achieve, seems like a bad idea to tie those together

2024-08-27 16:10:32

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Glad its working! Still many bugs to fix, improvements coming

2024-08-26 09:25:06

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no but I should definitely add that

2024-08-25 13:37:31

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Thats.. impressive.. I have several protections against wipe are you sure it was Nostur? do you remember what steps you did when it happened?

2024-08-24 22:04:01

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🙏

2024-08-24 22:02:27

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lets hear it 👍

2024-08-24 15:10:36

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its nostr kinds: https://github.com/nostrnests/nests

2024-08-24 13:24:57

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I rewrote a large part of feed loading so there might be some new bugs, what loading issues are you experiencing?

2024-08-23 18:21:07

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at what moment does it crash? can you submit crash report when it happens?

2024-08-23 12:23:32

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yes will add this

2024-08-23 08:14:51

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noted 👍

2024-08-23 08:10:10

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Probably ended yes, still need to add something for ended streams

2024-08-22 22:12:42

Faster feeds, first steps of nests integration, and more
Try listening on Plebchain Radio tomorrow and report bugs 🙏
#note1ln8…kugj

2024-08-21 19:28:29

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😢

2024-08-20 08:57:30

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it should have attribution, probably a bug somewhere

2024-08-19 22:21:45

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yes I was trying to add this a while back but ran into some issues, will look into it again soon

2024-08-19 21:27:22

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Unverified means the zap receipt is not coming from the wallet provider published on the recipient’s profile

2024-08-16 12:53:14

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agree, thats what I’m using too for data export

2024-08-13 20:52:20

I've been busy rewriting the feed fetching/loading mechanism in Nostur, everything loads faster now, will release it on TestFlight this or next week.

2024-08-12 16:21:31

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Noted

2024-08-10 17:11:52

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yes this fixed in next update, will be out soon

2024-08-09 16:50:46

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looks like @npub1yx6…7kza sending fake zaps using your npub with an invalid signature

2024-08-09 10:09:52

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I find it mostly annoying and if there was an option I would personally rather connect only to relays that reject posts like this.
nostr already has a data usage problem and obfuscating media data in text posts just makes it worse, clients that do this should at least use a different kind.

2024-08-04 16:56:18

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Yes but you should also still be able to use the beta, they expire after 90 days and the recent build still has 86 days to go. It's probably some bug with TestFlight, I see other apps seem to have this too randomly, not sure what the solution is.

2024-08-02 16:40:36

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cc @npub1lrn…qnw5 (for some reason wasnt included in prev post notification)

2024-08-02 16:07:53

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Only “Configure your relays…” and “Announce your relays..." can mess up your relay settings
Configure... is on device and can sync via iCloud, doesn’t mess with other apps, only Nostur.
Announce… is published on relays and can mess with other apps that read relay configuration from nostr relays.
Autopilot is in memory and doesn’t change any settings, you can turn it on or off and your relay configuration will be intact.
https://media.utxo.nl/wp-content/uploads/nostr/d/0/d0fc2070b5cff88d820fa654cd6536b414f7630d200108c9c25c005aad30aeca.webp

2024-07-30 22:05:36

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noted

2024-07-26 22:14:34

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https://nips.nostr.com/53 and https://github.com/nostrnests/nests

2024-07-26 21:20:26

making some progress with nests integration
https://media.utxo.nl/wp-content/uploads/nostr/2/e/2e90210e0b927161c124e8f5eee7ce09e1af15591d38da246f71e2a213a243f8.webp

2024-07-26 13:16:00

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What are you seeing? Looks good here
https://media.utxo.nl/wp-content/uploads/nostr/c/3/c32a74f3ac55cb0eab8c50b7cfdfdabb69371822934bf5840e8e37c8a3f8421b.webp

2024-07-26 10:33:18

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before the signer would always sign whatever event, even if it was already signed or a different pubkey, it would just sign it again with your pubkey. With the Broadcast tab you can just broadcast an existing event without signing it.

2024-07-26 10:00:23

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I'm playing around with it a bit, nice job! Still a bit complicated and very technical, my wish list:
1-click setup for a personal relay:
- where others can always find my posts
- allow others to post if they are in my follow list or in follows of follows (WoT)
- require auth for DMs or other private stuff
- import of all my existing content from other relays

2024-07-25 11:13:34

adding a toggle to only connect to additional relays when a VPN is active
https://media.utxo.nl/wp-content/uploads/nostr/3/b/3b592995c74193917149c5f3d171cd73d47304411144eb106da4f15660e60a79.webp

2024-07-22 16:59:18

Work in progress, streams + chats
https://media.utxo.nl/wp-content/uploads/nostr/e/f/efb22da6a8f9f758b97047568b17e6b4bbadf0fe490c31e58509d74f73fb04f3.webp

2024-07-22 13:30:03

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I'll have nests integration in Nostur soon, that should make it easier, no need to fumble with extensions or browser permissions

2024-07-19 16:17:30

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it is tricky

2024-07-19 12:56:44

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https://old.reddit.com/r/crowdstrike/comments/1e6vmkf/bsod_error_in_latest_crowdstrike_update/ldvwkbn/
https://media.utxo.nl/wp-content/uploads/nostr/e/5/e5a35bcdda3d5b1b17c88f108d3e4fbeebce02bb15ad6c0ebe0eed6e1e3678fc.webp

2024-07-19 12:46:39

https://developers.googleblog.com/en/google-url-shortener-links-will-no-longer-be-available/
Some day this will happen to our tenor gifs
Then we will say too bad, So Long, and Thanks for All the Gifs

2024-07-19 12:00:57

Crowdstrike
https://media.utxo.nl/wp-content/uploads/nostr/3/5/3583a1348be004c3614578750c3a3e29f984033e44c3c34833cd8c27ea08f33c.webp

2024-07-18 21:15:58

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do you know if these issues are still happening in TestFlight build 298?

2024-07-14 20:37:58

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thanks, should be fixed next build

2024-07-14 17:49:24

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I think it works now
#note1eaf…k7x2
But I’m not sure about the delayed processing, I have some code that handles that its never triggered because the response seems always status: “success”, not “processing”, I’m checking that first before checking “processing_url”

2024-07-14 10:45:19

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why?

2024-07-13 23:03:47

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yes

2024-07-13 17:45:03

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@npub138s…x624 I tried a few uploads, it seems nostrcheck.me is always coming back with 1280x960 dimensions no matter which image, also hash is always empty
https://media.utxo.nl/wp-content/uploads/nostr/9/b/9bbc9df6c4580fed0bacf4d282043ed398f059e7e88608781cae83cef80ffc14.webp

2024-07-13 16:28:22

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do you have a screenshot?

2024-07-12 19:38:11

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Ok probably relays are going in the "penalty box" when they shouldn't. I will have a fix next update. You can probably confirm this next time it happens before you force close if you go to Settings -> Relays -> Relay connection stats, scroll to bottom, probably all the relays it should be sending to are crossed out there.

2024-07-12 19:18:46

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Is this with Relay Autopilot / Enhanced Relay Routing on or off? (Settings -> Relays)

2024-07-11 21:51:37

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were you able to use Nostur before in earlier versions or always like this? do different nsecs or npubs work, or the guest account?

2024-07-11 16:13:54

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test 2

2024-07-11 16:10:51

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test

2024-07-10 22:47:14

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I'm trying to decide between Nostury and Nosturix
#note1ney…deel

2024-07-10 22:06:26

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L O S T was fun, but I did feel a bit rugged in the end in how the writers answered most of the remaining mysteries

2024-07-10 20:44:01

live streams/events/nests soon
https://nostur.com/v/live-events.gif

2024-07-09 19:05:23

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as a workaround you can follow someone by tapping on the 3 dots on one of their posts and then follow from the menu.
It’s related to not nuking someones follow list when existing follow list cant be found

2024-07-09 08:57:07

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so instead of "open with..." or plain-text alt, it would show an “iframe” which can be anything a browser can run?
usually the reasons against this are fishing or security-related, but with WoT or community moderators these things could be whitelisted.

2024-07-08 11:14:30

@npub1l2v…ajft should we also leverage the current kind 0+3 as a (loose) WoT for NIP-89?
The reason I'm asking because its probably an additional barrier/complexity for apps to adopt the (exact) WoT version (31989+31990)
Applications usually already have kind 0 profiles, we can put the handler tags in there instead of in kind 31990 (Handler information).
People also already follow application profiles, this would replace kind 31989 (Recommendation event).
Compare right now stemstr recommended by (exact):
https://nostur.com/screenshots/stemstr-exact-wot.png
vs Stemstr followed by (loose):
https://nostur.com/screenshots/stemstr-loose-wot.png
cc: @npub1xdt…ntxy @npub1jlr…ynqn (don't know who else has integrated NIP-89)

2024-07-08 10:24:17

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Nice, pinned posts 10001 sounds like a good fit 👍

2024-07-06 08:05:05

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this is a bug, for now you can go to the post detail by tapping somewhere around the quote and then tapping on the link works

2024-07-06 07:05:55

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Well done @npub1xdt…ntxy and @npub1r0r…q9ac !
Will it eventually be possible to pin or highlight specific posts?
https://fabian.npub.pro

2024-07-05 22:15:48

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👀

2024-07-05 14:50:03

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👀

2024-07-05 10:42:32

Started a new branch, sometimes solutions just keep floating in my head and I then have to work on it now even when I have other unfinished branches...
https://media.utxo.nl/wp-content/uploads/nostr/a/4/a46a3b38b42344f9a10a75fc625e7fecc03d213badebc679c4c287ac646a45ef.webp

2024-07-05 00:43:43

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might be related to too many relays, you could try to reduce relays to maybe 5 receiving relays and disable Enhanced Relay Routing if enabled to see if that makes a difference

2024-07-04 23:09:26

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I don’t want to manually approve every like, zap, post.. or is that possible to automate with push?

2024-07-04 23:05:50

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I will probably try it. Only downside may be that you have to keep the app active on the phone or it won’t sign. Or maybe thats a positive as a kind of 2FA

2024-07-04 22:52:26

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in previous versions it was fine? or did you first start with 293?
how many events/contacts do you have in the database? you can see this at the bottom in Settings

2024-07-04 19:22:53

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On Mac yes, on iPad sometimes when its on my desk as an extra screen

2024-07-04 16:04:49

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noted

2024-07-04 13:04:06

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Thank you. On desktop too (macOS), which has the same interface as iPad now, I use iPad/Mac more than on the phone, it will get even better when I have Nostur Pro ready.

2024-07-03 22:59:12

For power users: Using the Relay announce wizard to make sure others can find your content:
https://nostur.com/v/nostur-configure-relays.mp4
(sorry no audio)

2024-07-03 15:51:17

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ok yes I’m not logged in

2024-07-03 15:19:41

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@npub10np…tl5h I'm trying to spin up a relay but the Deploy button stays disabled after I enter my npub and subdomain

2024-07-03 01:02:22

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also talked a bit about it here but I don’t have the timestamps:
#note1snf…y425

2024-07-03 01:00:49

I was on @npub1mlc…8jpa with @npub1jlr…ynqn:
https://www.fountain.fm/episode/y5pGdEG67XWYYL7tCVDg

2024-07-03 00:21:31

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I wrote the basic idea/plan at top of this file:
https://github.com/nostur-com/nostur-ios-public/blob/main/Nostur/Nostr/WebOfTrust.swift
It's a bit outdated but still an ok description although not detailed, I could probably write something better.
Anything specific you want to know?

2024-07-02 21:39:06

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need to clone myself first

2024-07-02 17:17:20

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no change

2024-07-02 13:17:58

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no but should be easy to add that

2024-07-02 09:35:20

Relay connection stats will now also show whose content was found on which relays for people you follow:
https://nostur.com/screenshots/nostur-relay-connections-stats.jpg
#note1dmm…cmjz

2024-07-01 09:30:02

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This is normal, websockets disconnect all the time especially on mobile, I’ll check if I can separate these kind of errors from the other errors

2024-07-01 01:35:28

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sounds good

2024-07-01 01:16:31

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I saw that and didn’t want to steal it, but if your ok I will call it autopilot also

2024-06-30 23:01:56

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test

2024-06-29 22:58:18

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will be fixed

2024-06-25 22:59:40

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be more specific

2024-06-25 08:11:36

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yes

2024-06-25 07:50:19

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It has to do with preventing to lose your follows. If you created the new keypair somewhere else Nostur will try to fetch your follow list first before enabling the follow button.
If there is no existing follow list or a problem with fetching it, it will stay disabled, follow lists are still tricky on nostr unfortunately.

2024-06-23 17:04:21

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If it supports NIP-96 but not sure if it does

2024-06-23 16:23:07

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Compression test 4
https://media.utxo.nl/wp-content/uploads/nostr/e/b/eb1a13d1b3a0f821dcee946f6292ad07fb9e62e127a2760dea767790a598b3a9.mp4

2024-06-23 12:07:34

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compression test 3
https://media.utxo.nl/wp-content/uploads/nostr/f/9/f9c30b2a8e8c8922f28875c44ef5262922d6591c6ae5f97854625d8b935196c0.mp4

2024-06-23 11:59:06

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compression test 2
https://media.utxo.nl/wp-content/uploads/nostr/b/0/b0d7a4c5b0394553a199035e32598a13c4fb6afa05f549af9e066394407f9513.mp4

2024-06-23 11:53:25

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compression test 1
https://media.utxo.nl/wp-content/uploads/nostr/2/7/27674e376803da4c2fae2d8bdb18c90202674af5419cb70a85408e36ae34f16e.mp4