Caleb James DeLisle

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2026-04-03 09:40:42 UTC

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> We fired all of our shape-rotators because they didn't conjugate words as well as our word-conjugators
> Now we can't rotate shapes 😭

2026-03-26 19:40:45 UTC

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Some people have suggested that Trump started this whole war to run the US empire off a cliff... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2026-03-26 19:25:06 UTC

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The millisecond the US turns it's back, Europe starts paying attention to it's own affairs again...

2026-03-24 18:45:44 UTC

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When people ask me how I'm doing and I say "fantastic", it fits the script, but it's just a little bit too sincere, so for the rest of the conversation they're quietly wondering if I'm actually enjoying all of this (I am)

2026-03-23 19:05:26 UTC

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Art of saying "I hope we don't have to blow up their power plants" and while 5 minutes later, Israel does exactly that.
Art of looking pathetic and also making Iran look like the good guys.

2026-03-23 14:11:13 UTC

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Who is likely to be able to stop the war is the Russians or Chinese, who are most likely in contact with everyone in the region - including any significant factions - because they're providing intel and support.
But trying to get something out of either Russia or China will require concessions that suck worse than just going without. Back to the old meme...
https://pkteerium.xyz/media/1f79464e2a733fe36ece72abe063190bc73bf11c8e9f4180b6f666ac388dda01.png

2026-03-23 14:04:50 UTC

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If they're fractured, then there's no possibility of ever ending this because nobody's going to be able to call a ceasefire.
It's possible Trump is talking to someone, it's also possible that it's basically a scammer who is looking to make a buck by offering a "ceasefire" in exchange for sending some BTC to This Wallet Address... If there's fractured leadership then the line between scammer and real is blurry because even if someone claims they can deliver a ceasefire, it's questionable if they actually can.
It's also possible that he's making shit up, or they're making shit up, or (most likely) they're both making everything up as they go.

2026-03-23 13:56:58 UTC

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American women would have a really hard time in any other country. In most of the world, women are still held accountable for their actions.

2026-03-23 13:16:09 UTC

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Apparently no one lol
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2026-03-22 21:19:41 UTC

I've always been amused by woodgas cars... But they're so complex and difficult. There's a lot of hardware on one of those which is really better off being stationary.
However, if you have an electric car, and you charge it at home using a woodgas generator, it is effectively a woodgas car... And you can pull heat off the woodgas system to heat your home...
https://pkteerium.xyz/media/748a4fd4b0ecdf1621a3e5c8beda3f099b6decd948121b8b6a5837904158a177.png

2026-03-22 17:51:33 UTC

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Nitrogen is made from natural gas, so nitrogen tracks LNG price.
Farmers are going to skip applying fertilizer and accept lower yields, but that will raise grain prices which will probably lead to famine in Africa.

2026-03-21 13:05:39 UTC

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I see. Well, converting H2 into CH4 is not *that* big a deal either, if you're doing it at scale. Yes, it requires coal, but that's another supply chain which is fairly stable and exists already. And if you're going to CH4 then it's even better because you can make that into LNG.
But lets say you're just doing H2, you can still use it for storage in salt caves.

2026-03-21 03:10:23 UTC

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Of course she's not "thankful", it was a test and he failed.

2026-03-19 21:46:29 UTC

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Europe will probably be more aligned with China than Russia, but the EU is a power bloc so they can (and will) play China and Russia against each other.
UK is kinda fucked.

2026-03-10 15:13:20 UTC

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These things are being THOUGHT, not said.
Because in high level military if you say anything that hints you might be open to participating in a coup d'etat, you're out the door *immediately*...
So when a government starts going off the rails, there's a lot of winks, nods, and body language in military to see where everybody's head is at. When that eventually translates into actual action, it's swift and total.

2026-03-10 09:02:38 UTC

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China's "plan" to "control the entire Planet":
* Don't destroy your own energy infrastructure
* Don't prevent your native population from reproducing
* Don't import the 3rd world
* Don't start wars with random countries around the world
Americans looking at this like:
THIS
MUST
BE
(heavy breathing)
STOPPED

2026-03-10 07:11:07 UTC

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China and Europe are natural friends right now because they are both are reasonably advanced economies who and they both want to stay out of trouble and build business.

2026-03-08 20:22:59 UTC

Girls will be ....... Instinctively Homicidal ?
#nevent1q…zgsv

2026-03-07 21:32:07 UTC

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> anarchists can out-flank authoritarians by
making fun of them.

2026-03-05 09:10:48 UTC

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* SP = gasoline (95 / 98 is European octane ratings, same as US 87 and 95)
* E85 is 85% ethanol 15% gasoline, they sell that in the US too
* Gazole = diesel (B7 = 7% biodiesel, which is nice because it adds lubricity)
* GPLc is propane
All prices are by liter. E85 is cheaper because petroleum is heavily taxed...

2026-03-05 09:01:04 UTC

E85 price advantage is becoming quite significant here...
https://pkteerium.xyz/media/3404a28af1d43f79ed969c920cfd1c3fb3396b352a02f15dea4e908cee046a09.png

2026-03-03 23:09:19 UTC

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Maxwell?

2026-03-03 21:37:21 UTC

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Who remembers this?
https://pkteerium.xyz/media/894927b43974f813e7a13fc0ba1232f57e863777245e381f61eea5525c08cca7.mp4

2026-03-03 21:36:50 UTC

Professor Chinaman just dropped ANOTHER video...
* War is extremely lop-sided: 1mn$ defensive rockets vs. 50k$ drones.
* Iran is a mountain fortress (we know)
* The Strait of Hormuz is only 22km (13 miles) wide, massive chokepoint
* 80% of food in the gulf is imported (through Hormuz)
* The gulf has absolutely no water, without desalination they are absolutely doomed
* Iran is also water stressed, but less so
* Iran is an ethnically heterogeneous country, so US/IL strategy will be to bomb their water supplies then foment ethnic civil war over water, then feed the whole country to the meat-grinder.
* Iran's strategy is to trigger a Shia revolt across the middle east, and ideally a unified muslim nation (overthrow the British/American installed kings)
* Bahrain is Shia majority but Sunni controlled, so likely to see a revolution
* Iran also wants to destroy the gulf state economies in order to destroy the US petrodollar system
* Dubai is already dead, no one will ever want to move there again
* Importance of the oil corridor may draw Europe into this war, which then Russia and China may follow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIS2eB-rGv0

2026-03-03 15:57:26 UTC

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Saw that one coming lol

2026-03-02 22:33:43 UTC

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This is a really dumb take.
The US destroyed the Iranian navy... Of course they did. The US is thousands of times more powerful than the Iranian government ever was, and it would be a total embarrassment if the US wasn't able to do that in a matter of hours.
The threat was never Iran's government, the real threat was that Iran's government would *collapse*. Because once they collapse, there's no one left who can call for peace, and it's just chaotic loose knit bands of militants fighting to the death, with (importantly) long range missiles that can hit anything trying to cross the strait of Hormuz - a very very VERY important trade route.
So the only way to secure global trade and 20% of the world's oil supply is a ground invasion. You can't bomb missiles, they're hidden in the mountains where they're impossible to see from the air. The only way to clear the country of missiles is with a ground invasion, and US invading Iran would be like China invading Appalachia. Same geography, same friendly locals.
The Japanese considered an invasion of the US in WW2, and one Japanese general famously quipped "There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass".
This is a loser's war, plain and simple. There's no winning move here. But none of it has anything to do with whether or not the US can topple the Iranian government.

2026-03-02 21:08:37 UTC

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> Iran denies responsibility.
If it's what I think, even Iran doesn't know what Iran is doing anymore. There is no "Iran", it's just splinter groups that used to be parts of the military.

2026-02-28 21:07:17 UTC

Americans the second the US government starts a war...
https://pkteerium.xyz/media/a43a309c6eed20478d00e469d61a477f717dc4d67e82ab69fa8c88916913be5d.png

2026-02-21 03:52:12 UTC

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While he's not wrong, it basically sums to the "stolen land" argument which is super boring.

2026-02-19 19:53:10 UTC

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Rural Massachusetts is mixed. Where there's hills, there's hillbillies.

2026-02-19 16:53:12 UTC

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It's ironic that the left's fling with Islam is slowly leading these women into the hijab, and that this is actually most likely to lead to superior life outcomes for a lot of them.

2026-02-05 23:30:53 UTC

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Can you tell me in a sentence how they prevent the "miners/validators/etc can always steal the secret" thing?
Whatever they're doing, it can't be that complex...

2026-02-05 23:27:10 UTC

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Oh right, I remember the problem. We still don't know how to pass secrets on blockchains. If we can figure that one out, it will be HUUUUUUGE.
1. I have a secret
2. I encrypt it (somehow) on a smart contract blah blah on a blockchain
3. You want my secret, and you're willing to do whatever the contract requires to get it (pay), so
4. You make a key pair and you submit your public key into the contract with the payment and the contract does <magic> which re-encrypts my secret so that your private key is able to decrypt it.
Every way you try to solve this, the miners/validators/etc can always steal the secret...

2026-02-05 23:21:14 UTC

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I wonder if there's a decent way to auction off files... For example you upload the harddrive encrypted, then announce it on Teh Blorkchain, then 10 blocks later, the hash of that block gives you your code and you have to provide decryption keys for a specific 10% of the files based on that code (to show you're for real), then the rest of the files auction off like NFTs.

2026-02-05 23:10:43 UTC

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I suspect information is going to continue to trickle out over the next decade and the story is going to be like a coal mine fire. Always There.
Someone's gonna get the bright idea of building a friend map from this and the Hillary mail server, and people are going to run AI on it.
A lot of the "redactions" are going to get "un-redacted" when it becomes obvious who was on the other side.
I can see why Elon wants to build a colony on Mars. There aren't any bunkers deep enough anymore. For protection from earth-people, he's going to be able to charge whatever he wants.

2026-01-30 02:28:02 UTC

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Hmm, gold kg price = $166,583
13.5 tons of gold is 2.248 BILLION dollars worth.
> Corrupt mayor
I'm not sure that can be explained by brown bag money... Maybe he was running a bank out of his house?

2026-01-14 08:13:12 UTC

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This is a real oddity. I would love to hear someone on the inside talking about this.
I figure either the ad agencies are all filled with insane people who have no interest in selling the product, just pushing their politics.
Or else there's some actual advantage - maybe there's a demographic that likes humiliation and happens to spend a lot of money (?)
Or maybe the only important thing is if Larry Fink smiles on your company and nothing else matters anymore because the economy is fake...

2026-01-07 22:15:53 UTC

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That's why 4.4% is a very interesting number, because those people have actively searched it out...

2026-01-07 22:13:07 UTC

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> Results show that 4.4% of adults consumed raw milk at least once in the past year.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0362028X22067059

2026-01-07 21:08:47 UTC

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I'm amazed that 4.4% of Americans drink raw milk. That's way more than the % who actually work on farms, and there's no real reason for most people to bother getting it except that they consider government health advice to be Adversarial Signaling and believe that there must be some benefit to doing the opposite.

2026-01-07 20:14:05 UTC

A short story in 6 parts...
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2026-01-04 12:56:36 UTC

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"rich" (upper-middle class)
The rich don't pay taxes, the rich receive taxes.

2025-12-31 01:25:14 UTC

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If they were faking it, they'd have the same problem. A bunch of stolen lobsters they need to sell quick, to someone who doesn't ask questions.
IMO this has to be mafia and it's probably gonna end up becoming frozen lobster meat for lobster rolls.

2025-12-29 15:34:22 UTC

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This person must be a blast at parties.
https://pkteerium.xyz/media/5c5ecd51770ca152d27c80b31875c77f469c9b2693ceaa1e181db928d718c902.png

2025-12-24 01:12:16 UTC

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Really low IQ reliably implies stupidity
High IQ however is not reliable. There are lots of weirdos who just happen to be good at recognizing patterns in stick drawings, but are not that good at much else.
This actually makes total sense though, because "really smart" is super hard to identify, if you know what a smart person would say, you are a smart person, because you can just say it. Therefore IQ becomes a worse and worse metric as the number goes up.

2025-12-24 00:58:55 UTC

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> Stick the institutions with the bad debt
Fair, but not legal without some kind of justification. If it could be argued that the institution committed fraud against the student by promising them a job, then that could be the ill-gotten gains, and then it's legal.
But this is all a bunch of complex hoops to jump through, and of course every judge will automatically say the institutions are angels, because of course they will...
So hunting down the (mostly Democrat) students and squeezing it out of them is the most accessible option for the moment, and it doesn't require any special approval...

2025-12-23 13:32:25 UTC

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The soft underbelly of the oligarchy is the private jet. Every oligarch flies around in a tin can full of diesel fuel which can be seen from miles away, and anyone with even basic knowledge of rocketry can flick one out of the sky.

2025-12-23 13:22:29 UTC

Dumb idea: Start a school, teach terrorism. Every graduate will be guaranteed a nice cushy government job because it's too risky to imagine what they would do if they're not kept occupied.

2025-12-23 13:02:50 UTC

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> I like to go to a nice place like Japan, but I wish it wouldn't have all of the things that keeps it a nice place
These people vote.

2025-12-17 21:44:15 UTC

What if AI isn't using up all the RAM, and actually the shortage is only because we're living through the plot of Brazil (1985).

2025-11-12 14:20:10 UTC

We's finally getting the upper hand. Those Americans and Chinese can't help but to buy our potatoes. 🇮🇪 ☘️
#nevent1q…2cqm
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2025-11-01 13:33:06 UTC

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Proof: Pinochet only killed about 3,000 people in a country of about 10 million, and that was it. The entire communist vanguard went out the door of a helicopter.
https://pkteerium.xyz/media/b013a8564664c151eca52a81d5ea103e41b4d77216fd70cdd084f3fdfa0c8a7f.jpg

2025-11-01 13:30:30 UTC

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Communists are a "Vast Minority". They only seem like a majority because they're constantly causing trouble.
https://pkteerium.xyz/media/b9e5b17ea03cd3fffc8795c00df2eb7ab4bf831d895327008d4c149aefa26a31.png

2025-11-01 13:26:07 UTC

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> you are considered a "far-right activist" just by pointing out
Only by communists
> you become "right-wing"
Only according to communists.

2025-11-01 13:20:00 UTC

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What's funny is you can just look at the building and immediately know that it's a den of vipers.

2025-10-29 19:35:32 UTC

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My area of expertise is Prompt Engineering :]

2025-10-22 14:52:40 UTC

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Nope, still just using my Apple from 2020 because it still works ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2025-10-21 11:04:06 UTC

Gotta admit, the thing with the little penguins on the screen was always kinda neat.
https://pkteerium.xyz/media/b66025548626450f31118faa2f05f02a3b34941174f0e0e919119de6e74475be.png

2025-10-20 21:18:59 UTC

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> Because you're reasoning with communists instead of taking them for helicopter rides.

2025-10-20 17:18:01 UTC

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Apparently it's a compile option in openwrt, I wonder how much it improves perf

2025-10-20 17:13:12 UTC

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Oh interesting, actually a local sscache might do the trick, I don't have that many things to compile per build, but they still take their damn sweet time

2025-10-20 17:02:18 UTC

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Hmm, but I want to use it to compile openwrt...

2025-10-20 16:47:16 UTC

I wonder if anyone has done remote Make, so you can compile on a cluster

2025-10-20 16:44:56 UTC

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Someone should do like Our World In Data except it's an explorable map where you can check various chronic diseases and see the rates by country, then you can also check various stuff like # of vaccines, types of approved vaccines, glyphosate legality, etc...

2025-10-20 15:25:11 UTC

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Too lazy to learn a dashboard 🤝 Too cheap to pay for scaling
Dodging the AWS bullet

2025-10-20 14:19:31 UTC

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If I got my ass beat, I wouldn't write a fucking blarg about it.

2025-10-20 14:02:52 UTC

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Write, debug, deploy, ignore (forever)

2025-10-20 13:05:05 UTC

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Neato!

2025-10-20 13:03:49 UTC

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Actually it's funny because they refused to hold it in (I think) 2021 because they refused to enforce vax mandates... But yeah, I hear you..

2025-10-20 13:01:04 UTC

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How are you doing CDN?

2025-10-20 12:59:30 UTC

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I don't know all the ins and outs, what I know from my brief conversations is the following:
1. Dovecot is a pain to use, and they recently did a breaking update to their API
2. IMAP is really over-designed for purpose because the client downloads the messages and deletes them (not sure I agree with doing this, but that's how it works)
3. There are Things (I don't know all precisely what) that email doesn't support, so that's an issue
That said, Just Email has a benefit that it tends to work even in repressive regimes, so that's a reason why they're not super keen on changing protocol...

2025-10-20 12:52:51 UTC

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Stuff like phone calls, STUN / TURN...

2025-10-20 12:49:47 UTC

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B/c works and is not Signal...
inb4 "Matrix Works" -> lol

2025-10-20 12:47:17 UTC

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Yea, the original idea was that it's Just Mail, but they're slowly drifting away from that because actually mail doesn't fully meet their needs.

2025-10-20 12:44:38 UTC

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You can make it work with a classical address like protonmail, but it's way better to use a deltachat server because it has all of the features.

2025-10-20 12:18:20 UTC

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Matrix = your messages go *everywhere*, the thing is blockchainey so everything ends up getting replicated on every server. I think you can even just stand up a server and tell other servers that you *might* have a user who is in a channel, and they'll dump the whole channel on you. So privacy in Matrix = lol...
Signal is pretty nice, but yeah, it's CIA, you get what you get.

2025-10-20 12:01:44 UTC

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Well, you can run your own chatmail server (I don't, but you can)... Also the guys who develop it are cool. They're always at the CCC so you can hang out with them. No weird connections with Israeli intelligence backed companies like Some Other Chat Protocols...

2025-10-19 19:35:07 UTC

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I think we're more gonna be looking at the Satoshi standard 😏

2025-10-19 19:20:41 UTC

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Probably a bunch of retirement funds that the fund managers got bribed by the Treasury to go all-in on Bessant's shitcoin.

2025-10-19 18:48:55 UTC

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> Cayman Islands
Probably fucking USDT

2025-10-18 18:39:00 UTC

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Is there a bluesky bridge I can search for that account on?

2025-10-18 14:42:51 UTC

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Yeah, don't buy the PeeQue crypto unless you also wrap it with regular ecc curves.

2025-10-17 10:17:46 UTC

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> You have to let your feelings out
Job security for therapists 😏

2025-10-17 08:22:27 UTC

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> best option is to just stop replying. as is mine.
That didn't last long.
Protip: Getting mad at the internet = using it wrong.

2025-10-17 08:02:47 UTC

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Oh no it's a True Believer
Sorry for Heresying your Truth

2025-10-17 07:54:16 UTC

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Well, that requires kind of taking the Tower of Babel story at face value, and to do that you need to subscribe to the early theological perspective that that God is a real physical "Man in The Sky" who is fickle and gets jealous if he's not worshipped enough, worries that humans may challenge his authority (Genesis 2:33), etc.
I think that because nobody is really in *control* of the internet, it doesn't have the "With this I will reach as high as God" element of the Tower of Babel story. It could be considered that humanity is giving God (or Jesus) a worldly form, by which to return to earth. It could also be compared to the evolution of single celled organisms into multi-cellular life by grouping together and building a nervous system.

2025-10-17 07:39:07 UTC

In the future people will be more:
A. Mostly culturally homogenous, with evolutionary dead-end cults and crazies
B. Mostly culturally heterogeneous
Reason for A: Internet brings everyone into contact with each other
Reason for B: Collapse of centralized institutions eliminates conformity pressure
What do you think?

2025-10-16 17:34:29 UTC

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Well because solar is minuscule compared to nuclear, just like "composting toilets" are a gross and labor intensive version of a septic tank / leech pool system.

2025-10-16 10:18:09 UTC

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Way cheaper electricity...

2025-10-16 09:30:35 UTC

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My prediction (by 2060):
Petroleum and coal largely phased out in favor of nuclear and geothermal energy: 70%
Causes: By 2040 datacenters become the majority electricity consumer, this consumer is highly sophisticated and price sensitive, therefore willing to invest in modernizing power generation technology to save cost. Marginal cost of nuclear and geothermal generation becomes lower than that of petroleum and coal, because mining, refining and transport are not required. Electric vehicles become more economically competitive and internal combustion becomes increasingly a hobbyist niche. Environmentalism and regulatory pressure do not have any meaningful impact on this transition, it is made entirely for economical reasons. Renewable energy (solar, wind) proves manifestly uncompetitive in this new environment and becomes a historical amusement.

2025-10-16 08:11:39 UTC

wtf
https://pkteerium.xyz/media/b70fc1fcfcd961108a819546fad888478a6323d6c5ca23f87b27fe2deb8adda5.png

2025-10-15 15:03:04 UTC

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How do you define "libertarian"? If a self-described libertarian qualifies, then I present as evidence Jeremy Kauffman, who believes that libertarianism only works in a high trust society which means people who are predisposed to low-trust behavior (blacks) must be excluded.

2025-10-14 13:57:46 UTC

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I kind of feel like DJB is playing a multi-pronged game here - where he makes a bunch of rules-lawyering arguments against them and their process, and then slips in one that's not quite true, for example "The WG Chair is strictly forbidden from throwing puppies off of a cliff"
And he's hoping that the 'tism's gonna get them and they're gonna reply: YES WE CAN THROW PUPPIES OFF OF A CLIFF, YOU ARE WROOOONNG and everyone reading is like wtf...

2025-10-14 13:38:55 UTC

The IETF keeps on getting better...
Today "Rough Consensus" can be declared by a workgroup leader even if MORE THAN HALF of the workgroup objects.
I'm left wondering is a chair can declare rough consensus with NOBODY in support, but I refuse to dehumanize myself by joining that email thread.
https://pkteerium.xyz/media/812efb2c99f28962aa63c865df91ae121b023767cb2829892ad7f1a188c276d6.png

2025-10-12 15:50:47 UTC

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I'm not sure I understand... certainly connecting everything to ChatGPT API is the opposite of sovereignty.
Surely they're not talking about building powerplants again...

2025-10-12 08:04:00 UTC

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Bro if there was no government, they'd roll up with machine guns and collect taxes from you directly 😂

2025-10-12 07:58:38 UTC

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I unironically do not want freedom. I want meaning, belonging, and self-actualization.
Freedom is part of a recipe which can lead to that, but it's not the end goal.

2025-10-12 07:46:25 UTC

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What he's saying is that if you embrace *individualism* (i.e. no social organizations), and then someone else creates their own society within society (e.g. Jews), they're eventually going to rule over you.

2025-10-06 14:57:44 UTC

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No, natgas explosions are unique, they tend not to even start a fire.
This would have to have been some kind of a fog generator that can create a massive amount of kerosene fog pretty much instantaneously, like what the US government did at Waco.
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> no one can afford socialized medicine
You *can* have social medicine, but you have to treat people a bit more like farm animals - meaning when someone is going to become endlessly costly to keep alive, you kill them.
But this "mercy killing" concept brings up a bunch of ugly eugenics type discussions that breaks the "nation of equals".
Traditionally, the US had commercial medicine where you can spend millions or even billions of dollars to keep someone alive past when they naturally should have died. Isn't Rockefeller on like his 8th heart transplant?
So socialized medicine countries are trying to walk a tightrope of implementing something like #1 without admitting it.