Zest on Nostr: I know the thread is. The biggest difference of opinion that started your discussion ...

I know the thread is.
The biggest difference of opinion that started your discussion was what counts as punishment.
However at the point where I started talking, you had been discussing moderation of pedi instances. Specifically kicking out literal antis.
And let me just say, for my part. I'm very comfortable with them being murdered. I don't see that as a punishment. It's simply making the world a little better. However I am staunchly of the opinion that for a murder to be acceptable, the one who wishes for it must do it themselves. If the state made it easy for me by saying "it's illegal to be an anti and we execute them" I still would never call the police. And I'm not saying "lets kick out antis" either. I'm just saying, it's silly to think you won't make enemies *just* because your idea of justice is non-punitive.

Now I do see what you were saying, which is that you'll continue to advocate for no system of justice, no system of governance. And great, I agree. But even then I believe there will be violence and people who see eachother as enemies. And I say, great, let them fight. But lets not pretend that some perfect system exists that will result in no tragedy, in no sorrow, or that if our system is just so, that we can dismiss the reality that we're the enemies of whoever doesn't fit within that system.
And Remedy, if I'm confusing you, it's probably because you're expecting me to disagree with you more than I'm actually doing. There's little difference between us imo, aside from me being long winded and subtle (sometimes).
Right now, we're standing in the garden, discussing walls and weeding. While outside many people freeze and burn and get blown to bits. But it's not magic, people inside the garden suffer, hate, and die just the same, and people in wars, they can love, and make art, and live the last fleeting moments of their lives.