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Not sure if I get u right .. I just didn't want to reinvent the weehl for my use case, let's have a more concrete example of what I want to do, upload a presentation (.mp4) and link the slides (.PDF)s to it. I get ur point about the protocol and app part, thought maybe there is already something done for the same thing that I'm proposing ..
I'd probably introduce a new event kind to preserve that relationship between one or more file types (blobs)
What do u think ?

2026-01-03 19:49:35 UTC

@nprofile…evew is there an option or a way to make a blob reference multiple blobs, use case would be for example creating some ai summaries/notes or just add images (for MD files) .. Probably NIP-94 could be extended I think or is there any approach already discussed here I'm not aware of ? Just got the idea while planning to create an app based on BUD-11

2025-10-14 14:42:50 UTC

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Routstr also supports the x-cashu (NUT-24) header protocol .. u don't need to have any balance by ur provider, basically u pay per request .. u will need to have a client that can extract the model cost per request and can generate a cashu token .. https://otrta.routstr.com/documentation/overview
Other projects are following
https://njump.me/nevent1qqsfqhkmy50fw6l3kw3c6pr9f8pzpc3r36ce44wz3awzkflcczs26wcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qgsthdwa5rs42euhnuz5xsrmmssr84hshwes7uj392vpeldj7z0zw3crqsqqqqqpn7fhyt

2025-10-09 14:50:26 UTC

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Yeah that would work, but is it an issue to let the relay do that by itself .. With contexvm, we need probably a second service that is somehow connected to the relay to apply the changes .. @nprofile…e5wx correct me if I'm wrong

2025-10-09 14:23:38 UTC

@nprofile…278z @nprofile…ufa8 @nprofile…6htm any though on using nostr events to store relay configuration, like white listed npubs, etc.. , relays could fetch the event and apply on the fly without a restart..
It could also be a public event so anyone can copy..
Thought myself of having a relay daschboard to update settings and probably use it for other things..
(Or do u know about anything like this?)

2025-10-08 12:42:46 UTC

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2025-10-08 10:00:37 UTC

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soon 🫡
https://blossom.primal.net/47f0b8fbf69c83e1e169d1b63f48a10176360f091a925cda79c637f93a12bf6d.mov

2025-10-02 00:46:49 UTC

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What if the event is send to all configured relays and the first one who redeems it gets it, so its like mining the event bit still all have to keep it .. So relays could compete 😸

2025-09-08 20:12:22 UTC

otrta 0.1.2
We're thrilled to announce some powerful new features that enhance your AI experience:
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Future Plans:
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* Automatic provider switching for the best model prices!
* setup api key budget limit
Stay tuned for more updates!

2025-08-22 19:38:52 UTC

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Users are not required to have account/balance by their provider they could switch provider instantly without asking for refund..
when user sends a request an ecash token is created and added to the request, providers forward the request to an ai provider (like openai) get paid with the token provided and return change (if any) .. Basically the user has always a new identity

2025-08-10 07:25:03 UTC

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Hey, are u still having issues, currently the live otrta is up and running .. Not sure but could it be u logged in with different npubs ?
PN if the issue persisted

2025-08-08 17:14:05 UTC

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It's 'one to rule the all', we still look for a cool pronunciation 😅

2025-08-07 22:35:11 UTC

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U could use zed with routstr client already .. all u need is to setup the provider, basically ucould do that here: https://otrta.routstr.com
Checkout the dashboard when u login u will find the URL u need (create the api key, select ur provider, topup ecash to the provder mint and ur good to go)
https://zed.dev/docs/ai/llm-providers#openai-api-compatible

2025-08-07 09:34:07 UTC

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Did some work and summarized all in this project..
https://njump.me/nevent1qqspjv7e6k0yka9sqrgfkrxphgrlkqpcur9zk2qat067998ghu8gcuqpz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wchsygpzyndp04mthpllgcg7au3evtdqfu254xa7vsf4tl9kgj8rt8fzpgpsgqqqqqqsyedmvv

2025-08-07 06:40:03 UTC

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2025-07-28 09:52:23 UTC

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We are planning to release this week .. pre-release https://otrta.routstr.com

2025-07-21 20:05:03 UTC

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hey Arjen, thanks for reaching out .. That part of the documentation is still missing but we are currently working on the specification.. the current implementation of routstr does accept ecash from any mint so probably there would be no issue with using any mint proofs u have ..
reach out if u face any issues

2025-07-12 23:27:54 UTC

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Sure, I mean to make sure ur server is reachable u could do this simple test
curl -X GET https://embeekttrsdquyyicngh5i6xc6xkqymm6cihgzngtbxpoevd6ut5pead.onion/v1/models
That should return the list of all models in ur models.json file
u could also get the the server logs. First navigate to the folderwhere ur docker compose file is located and run the followingcommand
$ docker compose logs

2025-07-12 22:48:48 UTC

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Nice !!
One think to make sure ur server can be reached, try to collect ur models.
a GET request to this endpoint '/v1/models'

2025-06-26 17:04:29 UTC

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Yeah I'm currently cleaning up and improving some stuff, but basically the code is about the client that the user runs locally and hook up to any ai driven software that use the openai api protocol (like. Goose, roocode, cline, etc.).
will soon release the client with more docs and features..
Ppq or other provider should only implement the interface based on the provider-cliemt spec which as u mentioned still not well documented yet (working on it 😉)

2025-06-25 22:04:10 UTC

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I joined routstr team recently.
Did myself worked on such solution
https://github.com/9qeklajc/ecash-402-client
Where u pay ecash per request.
This method ist for sure as u mentioned it, not perfekt, but its a decision the provider make and risk loses ..
Wrote also some ideas on the topic, about a smart client and dynamic provider.
https://github.com/ecash-402/ecash-402-specs
Feedback is welcome

2025-06-16 21:03:39 UTC

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Not realy familiar with openrouter but, have you tried litellm ? Would you recommend it ?

2025-06-11 06:22:32 UTC

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To prototype and to see if ideas make sense then yeah vibe coding is awesome, but fortunately the currently available tools and llms generate a lot of noise after multiple iterations (e.g unused code, inconsistent style, etc..) and that makes it more harder to maintain and for others to contribute

2025-05-17 11:32:34 UTC

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30 SATs per request are minimum

2025-05-17 11:29:44 UTC

the api could be easily tested via curl
curl -i -X POST https://ecash.otrta.io/v1/chat/completions \
-H "X-PAYMENT-SATS: <ecash token>" \
-H "Content-Type: application/json" \
-d '{ "model": "meta-llama/llama-4-maverick-17b-128e-instruct-fp8", "messages": [{"role": "user", "content": "Tell me the difference between ecash and regular money."}] }'
The response includes a new header field (X-CHANGE-SATS) that provides an eCash token with change.
x-change-sats: <cashback token>

2025-05-16 15:28:38 UTC

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That would be the easy part (I think), when I setup my own mint ..

2025-05-16 10:22:26 UTC

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Saw it but didn't really have the knowledge and capacity to setup all those technologies together ..
Was really happy when I found nutshell to use via API (currently the API ist not supported anymore 🙈) so an older version is used!
There still a lot to do ..

2025-05-16 06:29:46 UTC

Project for a friend 😁
Excited to announce the ECASH OpenAI API client! There's still a lot to be done, contributions are welcome 🙏
https://github.com/9qeklajc/ecash-402-client
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2024-02-11 18:31:52 UTC

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!no

2024-02-11 18:31:32 UTC

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!yes