milo

Full agree 🦾
If not possible, place a dedicated firewall (OpenWrt or OPNsense) between your network and the ISP router.
I tried both OPNsense and OpenWrt.
The most cost-effective and simplest option for my use case turned out to be a Banana Pi One running OpenWrt — roughly USD 80.
It does exactly what it needs to do:
act as a clear, predictable control point between the internet and my network.
addons:
- dns over tls (f.e. Unbound) / dns over https (simpler with dns mask forwarder, quad9)
- wlan timer
client side:
- https only
- vpn on device needed

2025-11-02 19:22:57 UTC

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Oh yes… 🥱

2025-10-28 20:54:36 UTC

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Preview of a Post before saving. 🦾

2025-10-24 04:25:56 UTC

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Encrypted Group Chats 😬

2025-10-09 18:19:44 UTC

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Nice 🦾

2025-10-07 18:52:09 UTC

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My current status: I'm currently using Endeavour OS (arch).
I'm quite satisfied. I really like that it's community-driven.
#endeavouros #arch

2025-09-13 11:36:19 UTC

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I’ve heard of it, it looks interesting. I should take a closer look at its technical side.

2025-09-07 04:29:46 UTC

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There are only deb and rpm packages from contributor. pacam and flapak for f.e. Protonmail Client are missing.
Do you build missing software it from source to be sure there is no hidden malware?

2025-09-06 12:44:27 UTC

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Artixs sounds good, alternative for systemd. Maybe i will try this distro

2025-09-05 21:00:01 UTC

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Thank you, interesting. Artix seems arch based. I did no no this distro.
What are the advantages over a basic arch installation?

2025-09-05 20:56:07 UTC

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On serverside debian is my first choice too 👌
Manjaro sure, has a little bit less aggressive rolling release concept.
Run it on a pinephone years ago, but did never run it on desktop 😅
I love the arch distros because it is community driven , no hidden company behind.
Do you use hardenings or container tools for safety of the system? (Apparmor/firejail/other) i have a big respect of the community packages yay. But seems the only way to get most tools (ok…maybe flatpak is an alternative or to build the package yourself)

2025-09-05 20:27:26 UTC

What linux distro do you use and why do you love/choose it?
#asknostr #linux

2025-09-05 19:56:05 UTC

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Next distro was Arch… Endeavour was nice, but why choose it if I can run the base system directly?
Rolling releases, a big non-profit community, and independent background structures.
Pacman and yay give access to a huge tool repo — though I have some security concerns about using yay packages…
Sadly, Debian and Fedora packages are often prioritized, so you end up relying on Flatpak, yay, or building the package yourself.
All of the distros were great and habe advantage and disadvantages — I’m still not sure which one I’ll choose. But it’s great to have a choice!
Ah… for security enthusiasts: try qubeos , it is great 👀

2025-08-28 20:12:48 UTC

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What is bitchat, what is the tech behind and what problem does/will it solve

2025-08-21 17:47:43 UTC

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Uff i had to correct my post… new one. I think the message came across wrong — I meant something else

2025-08-21 04:59:35 UTC

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Unfortunately the api is missing (f.e. IDE connection)

2025-08-21 04:53:25 UTC

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I am not sure you could/should classify it as freedom tech. But AI is a technology that can help in Knowhow and efficiency. Most of the people do not know how to self host or do not have the money to buy the mandatory gpu. Small modells are great but.. there are usecases you need the big ones.
Proton has a new cloud AI, maybe a small topic

2025-08-21 04:15:42 UTC

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I believe that in the Freedom Tech space, Linux is one of the most important things. Below is a series of points about it:
what it is,
why Linux, the most well‑known distributions and their strengths and applications,
what to keep in mind (Linux isn’t automatically more secure, and privacy can be compromised by wrong settings or packages).
There’s much more that could be covered.

2025-08-19 15:22:23 UTC

Should I really dare to switch from a self‑managed Lightning solution to a self‑hosted one? ⚡️
Do you have good guides on how to set up LND correctly on a Start9 node, run channel management (e.g., automated eviction), and create a reliable backup in case the hardware fails?
#asknostr #lightning #lnd #start9

2025-08-17 18:41:02 UTC

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👍
Had popOS on a old macbook Air. Worked great too… (but wlan driver was missing. Had to install after basic setup)

2025-08-17 18:09:02 UTC

Debian - Fedora Silverblue - EndeavourOS
On my Laptop I wanted to validate my way and installed different Linux philosophies. Tried office, documentation tools and AI Tools like ollama and goose.
Debian felt solid and secure. A hardened setup with full-disk encryption worked well.
For servers Debian is fantastic – stable, trustworthy, predictable. Use and used it in different ways for the home servers.
But on my laptop I wanted more modern packages and rolling updates. AppArmor and Firejail I only touched briefly, still need to learn them properly.
Silverblue impressed me with its immutable concept. Very clean separation of base system and apps. Security feels strong with a professional/commercial team behind it. Fedora is still community-driven at its core, but the long-term influence of IBM/Red Hat inevitably shapes priorities and creates a certain corporate gravity?
For a stable workstation it is excellent. But I noticed limitations when tools need deep hardware access, like AI models.
Now I am testing EndeavourOS. Pacman and Flatpak work great, I avoid AUR for safety. Installed with full-disk encryption and Gnome. Hardening is not complete yet, I am considering to dive deeper into AppArmor or Firejail. As an alternative, Toolbox could be a good way for safe experimentation – something I liked from Silverblue and that can also fit well into my Endeavour workflow.
It feels alive and authentic, because it is completely community driven. Rolling release gives me flexibility and the newest tools. For me as a tech enthusiast this fits best on my laptop.
What are your experiences and your thoughts? What hardenings do you recommend?
#Linux #FOSS #Privacy #Debian #Silverblue #EndeavourOS

2025-08-16 11:10:47 UTC

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Sehr cool 😎 bsondrigs ide kombi vonere none-custodial app!

2025-08-13 19:00:24 UTC

GN 🥱
I hope we can overcome our greed in paper bitcoin and refocus on what really matters.
https://blossom.primal.net/fe79f064507f0832e84a568a54a642f642d0c4110136d0fdc533cb9ece24ec38.gif

2025-08-12 04:08:58 UTC

GM plebs ☕️
https://blossom.primal.net/718c8fe16de2d1a5d9cde23deeec5d83d76579459e9466c8e71dced74bbd48dc.png

2025-08-09 11:06:44 UTC

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#naddr1qv…zydu

2025-08-09 03:47:13 UTC

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Ska-badaba-dabadoo, belidab-belydab-bladab-bladab-blabab
Belibab-belibab-belibab-belab-belo-doo-belidoo
https://open.spotify.com/track/623rRTKwGmgjH6sjE9uWLh?si=4TjZqUb-SdqNkwTifbODdA&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A2MRWFajfjxfLAF3wwmdv5j

2025-08-07 20:26:03 UTC

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Welcome back 🦾 missed your words here!

2025-08-05 18:50:29 UTC

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App usage feels smooth — probably the best client in terms of usability right now 🦾

2025-08-05 06:59:13 UTC

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I hope there’ll be a few more reactions coming in 😅

2025-08-05 06:57:01 UTC

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Sorry, it was still early – brain not fully online yet 😅 Thanks for the zaps ⚡️

2025-08-05 05:04:17 UTC

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What?

2025-08-04 11:55:48 UTC

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Yes, a great client!

2025-08-04 10:29:06 UTC

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Maybe solutions like Lightning, Silent Payments, or PayJoin,… could help — but they won’t matter much without broad wallet adoption.

2025-08-04 08:25:43 UTC

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Very Cool… 🦾

2025-08-03 20:50:13 UTC

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@npub15c8…ssvx thanks for the detailed answer in the podcast

2025-08-02 06:33:12 UTC

GM ☕️
When decentralized sync of nostr and bitcoin through bluetooth mesh network as an alternativ to global internet 👀
#GM #bitchat #nostr #bitcoin #DecentralizedCommunication

2025-07-27 10:40:56 UTC

GM plebs 🦾
Strength session before sunrise.
Iron moved, mind cleared.
No distractions. Just breath, sweat, and presence.
#GM #Nostr #StrongBodyClearMind #ProofOfWork
https://image.nostr.build/db661cb0e87b0c49909384c451c748dd738ee9333d81358b6b16fbd2c2449983.jpg

2025-07-25 10:56:03 UTC

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@npub1der…xzpc welche hardware und software komponenten verwendet ihr im freedom tech bereich zum vibe coden?
Bisher bei youtube kommerz videos ist mir immer aufgefallen, dass auf nicht laptop taugliche grosse Modelle zurückgegriffen wird…

2025-07-25 09:01:03 UTC

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Thank you for reply!
Have to try… i am not sure my laptop has enough power to run de model.

2025-07-25 04:15:04 UTC

GM plebs ☕
Got any tips on using f.e. Goose for some vibecoding with a local LLM on Linux?
Which local model would you recommend? Are they good enough for solid results on a Laptop (AMD Ryzen 7 8840U processor, 32GB RAM), or do I still need to fall back to a big cloud LLM?
Also: which IDE pairs well with Goose for a smooth workflow?
#asknostr #vibecoding #LLM #GooseAI #localfirst
https://image.nostr.build/f9304320b8383012ef1faee6657bca8522cf79de9861b0498c33a13349769d51.jpg

2025-07-18 10:54:14 UTC

🧠 Study #FuckYouMoney
📡 Through the #FuckYouCommunicationProtocol
🎶 While listening to #FuckYouSound
https://image.nostr.build/b509fe56f7227186aaa51e71558ea51a80e593dbccba4eba79cf8975544466a1.jpg

2025-07-16 11:45:28 UTC

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What was the reason for choosing this distribution over others like Fedora Silverblue or Debian? (Arch Architecture, Gaming,…)

2025-07-15 18:29:01 UTC

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Which Bitcoin Privacy Technologies Leave a Blockchain Footprint and Create “Tainted” Coins?
In Bitcoin, all on-chain activity is permanently visible, and most privacy-enhancing techniques leave recognizable patterns. These can lead to “taint” — where coins are flagged by blockchain surveillance tools (like Chainalysis, Elliptic, or TRM Labs) as suspicious or high-risk.

2025-07-15 17:40:56 UTC

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I like the idea of using a local 8B LLM on my laptop.
What’s the best way to add a web search layer on top of a model running f.e. in Ollama? Are there any standard good solutions?
I tried using RAG (Retrieval-Augmented Generation) myself, but it didn’t work as expected. Even using a separate embedded context LLM beforehand didn’t have the desired effect.

2025-07-06 17:09:12 UTC

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Sounds interesting! 🦾

2025-07-05 05:31:49 UTC

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Great 👌

2025-07-04 20:44:33 UTC

#bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System”
(Whitepaper, 2008)
Now trading trustless money… through the most trusted middlemen!
https://image.nostr.build/1679553be51a021156191de593a9096d8ee397b5a1fb9cf9563146478624ca81.jpg

2025-07-02 13:03:18 UTC

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Just try… it is not very complicated… you can use an llm to help you create the code.
Or copy my code, set the Parameter.

2025-07-02 11:10:03 UTC

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Yes, but needs a lot of finetuning and the gui is missing for not technical users. I already optimized the prompt that i get better results and i think i get better results with llama3 8b than mistral.
My learning are, that it is realy simple to run a local llm and use f.e the nostr API.
Next example follows… but i know it is basics, for most here not something new 😅

2025-06-27 19:58:37 UTC

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Difficulty spiked. Satoshi dipped 😅

2025-06-27 05:58:43 UTC

☀️ GM plebs
☕ Coffee first,
🌿 Enjoy the beauty of life
#nostr #pleblife #coffee #gm
https://image.nostr.build/64f4ecf5d6f8f44dee0a5c56d2880e396ba98a289ebfd47bc5c9c832969ad748.jpg

2025-06-26 12:58:28 UTC

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Yes, ubuntu itself has… (account and more Integration in zentralized canonical system)…Better use fedora, debian… (but don‘t forget to harden)

2025-06-26 12:53:23 UTC

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Obtainium: No need for Third Party Appstore… Install Apps direct from sources like github.
https://github.com/ImranR98/Obtainium

2025-06-24 19:57:36 UTC

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Tried pinephone 3 years ago… manjaro os and postmarket os were running and basic function like mobile calls, sms, internet were acceptable.
But for daily usage the hardware was too slow. The display did not have a good touch display. And the OS and Tools were not designed for small mobile screen.

2025-06-24 19:35:42 UTC

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Mullvad 👊😅

2025-06-23 06:04:13 UTC

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With mobile it is difficult. Seems the nextcloud app is THE solution.
There are possibilties, but more complex. You could sync with syncthing. But i never tried this Solution
Sync files from Android to your Nextcloud server using Syncthing.
Files go into the Nextcloud folder, and a quick scan command makes them show up in Nextcloud.
On your Android device:
- Syncthing app (from F-Droid or Play Store)
On your server:
- Syncthing installed and running
- SSH access
- You know the Nextcloud data folder (e.g. /var/www/nextcloud/data/user/files/Syncthing/)

2025-06-22 19:02:49 UTC

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if you have your own nextcloud instance, you could install the nextcloud client (iphone, android store). or download the cilent for desktop on the homepage: https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/latest/user_manual/en/files/desktop_mobile_sync.html
to sync calendar, contact you can use DAVx

2025-06-22 18:48:38 UTC

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yes there are services that do the job for you... dyor

2025-06-22 18:46:13 UTC

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#bitcoin is money, use it. if you do not use it, it is not money... 🤗
but I know what you mean... keep a part of the stack for the potential buying power in the future. however, my opinion is still that if #bitcoin is to be a money. then it must be used like money. a good option is to pay off your car?

2025-06-22 13:59:02 UTC

Forget the world’s darkness. Embrace the light of life ☀️
Give your body rest to regain strength 🦾
https://blossom.primal.net/e87edc684ba40b34ade4b3caeb7e554866de9d1919ce93b01e2559cbf5762362.jpg

2025-06-21 20:45:53 UTC

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Your right!
It depends on your options to secure your private key…
But there is an other cool advantage… you could hide your private key on hardware wallet. Store a small amount of bitcoin on the seed (without passhrase).

2025-06-21 20:12:40 UTC

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if they shut down the internet / the power, we have other problems than bitcoin. Deliverychains, hospitals, communication do not work... pure chaos.
if there is a partiell internet or power shut down.. no problem for bitcoin. bitcoin is dezentraliced.
If there is a global shutdown. as soon as we get the power / internet back and one bitcoin node is running... we are back

2025-06-21 05:52:10 UTC

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Unbelievable how they’re fucking over people! 🤡

2025-06-19 18:59:33 UTC

📣 I give Fedora Silverblue a try as my daily driver.
✅ Why Silverblue?**
* Immutable base system** → prevents tampering, easy rollback
* OSTree updates** → atomic & reliable
* Flatpak app model** → sandboxed apps with tight permissions
* Wayland + SELinux** by default
* No telemetry or corporate bloat**
🧱 My hardening steps:**
* Enabled `firewalld` and blocked all but VPN traffic
* Installed **Mullvad VPN** (via rpm-ostree)
* Disabled unneeded services: `geoclue`, `bluetooth`, `cups`
* Set Storage encryption
* Browser: daily driver **LibreWolf**, **Mullvad Browser for sensitive browsing**
* Disabled shell history & metadata leaks
* Flatpak & system auto-updates via `systemd` timers
* Optional: Enforced Flatpak overrides:
** `--nofilesystem=home`
** `--nosocket=x11`, `--nosocket=wayland`, `--unshare=network`
⚖️ **Pros:**
* Strong base for privacy-focused workflows
* Clean separation between apps & system
* Good balance of security and usability
* No Snap, no system bloat
❌ **Cons:**
* Learning curve (rpm-ostree, Toolbox, Flatpak sandboxing)
* some App compatibility issues (some software needs workarounds)
* Fedora Silverblue is less widely adopted
💡Silverblue is a powerful middle ground. Immutable, auditable, and increasingly privacy-friendly.
Whats is you take on fedora silverblue? Do you apply additional hardening measures (e.g. app sandboxing, flatpak overrides, systemd tricks, firewall setups, TPM or FDE, etc.)?
What Linux distro do you use — and why do you recommend your setup?
#linux #fedora #silverblue #privacy #security #immutable #flatpak #asknostr

2025-06-17 07:33:31 UTC

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I tried lm studio… but is not complete open. I think ollama is the way to go 👍
Is it possible to implement a online web search?

2025-06-17 06:33:22 UTC

What are your preferred setups for running local LLMs on laptops?
Also, what are the current best methods for allowing a local LLM to fetch live data from the internet?
#asknostr #AI #llm #localAI #privacy #localLLM

2025-06-16 09:38:16 UTC

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Very nice, i use nostur too. But…
#nevent1q…mju5

2025-06-16 08:06:01 UTC

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I want to make it clear that this post is not meant as criticism.
I deeply appreciate the work being done, and I’m genuinely grateful that there are developers like you who have the skill and dedication to build such freedom-oriented technologies on open-source systems.
My post is aimed at addressing a more fundamental issue that I believe is worth discussing constructively.
Thank you! 🦾

2025-06-15 19:34:36 UTC

📣 Nostr needs real Linux clients – with broader community support
Nostr is a free and open protocol, built on decentralization and censorship resistance.
But where are the serious, native Linux clients?
Sure, there are clients — and they deserve huge credit.
But many are maintained by just one main person. That’s fragile.
Others are browser-based or optimized for mobile. Great, but not enough.
Linux is the natural home for local-first, auditable, and privacy-respecting communication.
Yet most Nostr clients on Linux still depend on web stacks — making them almost as exposed as traditional platforms.
👉 What we need:
- Native GUI clients for Linux with current nip support
- Zero telemetry by default
- Optionale: local AI-based filtering (instead of relay moderation)
Until then, a decentralized protocol without truly local autonomy remains vulnerable — not by design, but by missing tools.
What do you think?
Or maybe I’m missing something — is there already a solid native Linux client I just don’t know about?
#nostr #linux #foss #privacy #opensource #selfhosted #censorshipresistance #bitcoin
https://blossom.primal.net/c9f3c1980dbecdbaf1f9304d2805d04aa0f4eab1bc8dd18e367b493aaa58837b.png

2025-06-15 17:13:50 UTC

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Using other centraliced services to discuss sovereign topics is like using fiat to discuss sound money ✌️

2025-06-15 08:12:01 UTC

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As a follow-up to my previous post:
Filtering and content-weighting algorithms are essential — but they must never be done centrally.
This applies to #Nostr clients, nostr nodes and the protocoll itself as well.
If I want to onboard my family to #Nostr, I need the ability to filter disturbing content from images, videos, and text.
If I want to improve my own user experience, I need to be able to sort my feed according to my own values.
Neither a node nor a client-side database should make these decisions for me.
I envision a future where a locally running AI takes care of this — under my full control.
#Privacy #Decentralization #ContentModeration #AI #SelfSovereignty #nostr
#nevent1q…j68f

2025-06-15 06:45:40 UTC

Using Telegram, Discord,… or an other centralized service to discuss Bitcoin is like using fiat to discuss sound money.
There, I said it. 🫠
It’s a fallacy to believe that closed, centralized platforms are the right place for sovereign conversations.
#nostr #bitcoin #privacy #sovereign

2025-06-09 06:32:36 UTC

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https://primal.net/avren/wTvt6nMSaN82-fwUmwKCn

2025-05-29 11:01:57 UTC

#asknostr
i search for privacy focused relays (no logging, no public feed/index, …)

2025-05-26 18:32:50 UTC

unsigned char d[] = {
0b01000101, 0b01110110, 0b01100101, 0b01110010, 0b01111001, 0b01110100, 0b01101000, 0b01101001, 0b01101110, 0b01100111, 0b00100000, 0b01100101, 0b01101100, 0b01110011, 0b01100101, 0b00100000,
0b01100010, 0b01100101, 0b01101100, 0b01101111, 0b01101110, 0b01100111, 0b01110011, 0b00100000,
0b01110100, 0b01101111, 0b00100000, 0b01101111, 0b01110100, 0b01101000, 0b01100101, 0b01110010, 0b01110011, 0b00100000,
0b01101111, 0b01101110, 0b01101100, 0b01111001, 0b00100000, 0b01110100, 0b01101001, 0b01101101, 0b01100101, 0b00100000,
0b01101001, 0b01110011, 0b00100000, 0b01110100, 0b01110010, 0b01110101, 0b01101100, 0b01111001, 0b00100000, 0b01101111, 0b01110101, 0b01110010, 0b01110011 };
for (unsigned char *p = d; p < d + sizeof d; p++) putchar(*p);
https://blossom.primal.net/9d3a0d69778d5feb8396eb5fff9c99ad157e3d05460f1d19a60ce55ffd304501.jpg

2025-05-25 12:36:56 UTC

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Great work 🦾
Seems to work… but just show one of zwo zaps in post. Maybe a lack of time..
Tried with coinod in damus… i am waiting for NWC integration in @npub1xnf…lpr5 with lsp that i can use my favorit ln wallet 😃

2025-05-17 05:54:26 UTC

GM #nostr
https://blossom.primal.net/ae903684c944bd92b9824e5c401817f1687f43545586bf1a392b5ca2fab9c8d2.png

2025-05-16 17:04:19 UTC

If your online identity depends on a platform’s policy,
it’s not your identity — it’s their product.
#SelfSovereign #Privacy #FreedomTech #Nostr
https://blossom.primal.net/da5e9dc569390bee1dceffc52eb86940a3ce4ca32d5c3adab5b26fd4da314f7f.png

2025-05-15 18:10:42 UTC

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Ah very cool! Thank you

2025-05-15 17:39:26 UTC

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👍 i want to move from a mini pc to a ,not always online’ laptop.
Do you run bitcoin core and an indexer on a vm or use a specified node Package direct on Os?

2025-05-15 17:27:40 UTC

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Futjitsu Futro - Debian with bitcoin core / Fulcrum / mempool
tried Start9 - runs good

2025-05-15 15:47:47 UTC

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😅

2025-05-11 06:09:39 UTC

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Reply by @npub1xnf…lpr5 on my question in article to a post I deleted(i renamed the article):
https://image.nostr.build/f2790f0a263467ec1e19a3c8330137c70f7621d590d603e3e050bdd9f983583b.jpg

2025-05-11 04:42:04 UTC

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I want to replace title: ‚self-managed‘ NIP-05 as Lightning receive Zap Adress for Nostr

2025-05-11 04:40:28 UTC

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Yes, but if a would use my own remote node. This is why i use the lsp…

2025-05-11 03:52:54 UTC

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that's right! Github and LSP are a compromise that I am currently consciously making.
- Main reason: currently no permanent internet. Cloud VM might be an alternative…
- currently not in the mood for channel management. Di you know…Is there now an automation it?
NWC sounds great! That would be an excellent solutiong 🦾

2025-05-10 20:40:11 UTC

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Something line that?
https://primal.net/avren/wTvt6nMSaN82-fwUmwKCn

2025-05-10 20:38:03 UTC

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To add:
I just combined Information that i found to fullfill my need and had the idea to share it…

2025-05-07 19:22:36 UTC

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The formatting doesn’t display nicely on the mobile client. It’s best to open it with Yakihonne

2025-05-07 15:52:31 UTC

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Thank you very much. I think I didn’t understood the concept 😅

2025-05-07 09:01:17 UTC

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https://github.com/mkdocs/mkdocs

2025-05-07 00:19:38 UTC

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😂

2025-05-03 13:37:01 UTC

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If you’re using LUKS encryption, you need to run the following in the terminal to make the keyboard work:
————————————
Surface Laptop 3 + Debian: Internal keyboard not working (I²C keyboard not loaded in initramfs).
Fix:
1. Edit: sudo nano /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
2. Add drivers (see below)
3. Run: sudo update-initramfs -u
4. Reboot
————————————-
Add to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules:
i2c_designware_core
i2c_designware_platform
i2c_hid
hid_multitouch
intel_lpss_pci
surface_hid
surface_kbd
surface_aggregator
surface_aggregator_registry
surface_aggregator_hub
pinctrl_tigerlake

2025-05-02 03:58:09 UTC

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😃

2025-04-30 03:48:08 UTC

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Installation of bitcoin core and direct connection to sparrow, thats it?