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2025-05-12 03:43:07 UTC

#programming #gamedev #devlog #commonLisp #series #lazyEvaluation #functionalprogramming https://screwlisp.small-web.org/lispgames/cl-series-for-game-logic/ #lispgamejam
Since cl-series generates native common lisp code by working at macro expansion time, I consider it suitable for my software individuals (who want only clos-less common lisp and their own logic (which they have an introspective theory of).
In particular, I use series to 'cut out' rectangular sub- sequence of sequences -s.
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2025-05-11 02:05:14 UTC

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@nprofile…m2ru Thanks! Sorry that I'm trying to cram the whole thing into basically this 24 hours since I need to prepare for KMP's interview next week.
I seem to have ended up not working in turning arcs or acceleration which were focal to Braitenberg I guess, right now I would like to clearly reach a Conway's-game-of-life stage.

2025-05-11 01:58:47 UTC

#programming #gamedev #lisp #devlog #lispgamejam the third for my birds eating insects eating plants experience https://screwlisp.small-web.org/lispgames/plant-sensors/ imagining the #automata #agent #Sensors .
Simple sensor input -> acceleration agents in a grid ideas.
I don't get what happened with that markdown table either.
I also add the #types for bird insect plant in my #softwareIndividuals KRF.
#gamejam forum post https://itch.io/jam/spring-lisp-game-jam-2025
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2025-05-10 22:27:02 UTC

#itch #itch_io #gamedev #devlog #programming #lisp https://screwlisp.small-web.org/lispgames/plant-insect-bird-game-sketch/
Blog the second for my #softwareIndividuals Braitenberg-vehicles type birds eating insects eating plants experience. #software #agent #simulation .
This one is an introductory #demo for my #softwareIndividuals useage as well. https://codeberg.org/tfw/pawn-75
#lispGameJam forum thread: https://itch.io/jam/spring-lisp-game-jam-2025/topic/4858711/what-genre-is-simulation-eat-things-or-you-die
Very interested in feedback and commentary, hearing how your jam is doing.
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2025-05-10 11:27:04 UTC

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@nprofile…3flu oh, they're on here. Sorry I forgot the name. I will try and read my messages <_>

2025-05-10 10:47:00 UTC

#programming #lisp #lispGameJam #gamedev #devlog #blog https://screwlisp.small-web.org/lispgames/whats-the-plan/ number one.
Proposing a Braitenbergian Vehicles #automata world of plants that spread, insects (that eat plants) and birds (that eat insects and sleep in plants).
Shoehorn in a player by just dropping them in and saying they also need to eat.
What is everyone else doing?
I basically just have tomorrow

2025-05-06 09:53:57 UTC

#emacs #lisp interviewing @nprofile…44p3 about #eev on the #lispyGopherClimate, 14 hours from tooting. Be there.
If anyone knows anything about #typetheory, that would be great. Mostly I just figured out eepitch can pitch text "like you typed it" to basically anything. https://anggtwu.net/index.html#eev https://anggtwu.net/eepitch.html https://anggtwu.net/math-b.html
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a "tool for automating almost everything" and "my project to save the world with Free Software"
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2025-04-27 11:03:17 UTC

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@nprofile…de2h
instead of really having text files tell people you're serving them text files but it's dynamically generated with a timestamp.
@nprofile…8pzy

2025-04-27 10:21:26 UTC

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@nprofile…d0dh to actually address your question, I am envisaging a software-individual planning for me to be able to eat later, assembling a shopping list for a dinner plan and then adding it to my emacs org agenda, so yes specifically writing a grocery list to emacs but it should also figure out to do that itself.

2025-04-27 03:46:16 UTC

#emacs #lisp #programming #technology #blog https://screw-lisp.statichost.eu/emacs/swankful-software-individuals.html #softwareIndividuals #knowledgerepresentation
Teaching my Screwlispbot softwareindividual how to use emacs via slime swank.
https://screw-lisp.statichost.eu/
Quite a lot of commentary on using-emacs-at-all.
Comments, thoughts, criticisms, website advice sought.
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2025-04-25 11:25:23 UTC

Small #series #commonLisp #example #programming #blog
https://screw-lisp.statichost.eu/#orge3a4cb6
After Zenie kept saying CI, CI, CI to my deafears, I tried to rebuild my new blog on statichost.eu and was wondering what the strange cache behaviour of my index.html was... (I was forgetting to manually regenerate my index.html).
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2025-04-25 06:44:06 UTC

I noticed that @nprofile…8x0h has static websites.
#commonLisp #lambdaMOO #softwareIndividuals #emacs
sharpsign priority-requestsp
https://tfw.codeberg.page/

2025-04-24 08:04:04 UTC

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@nprofile…gkda ah, I can remember when I was going to port ghdl somewhere and later decided not to, actually.

2025-04-17 00:56:31 UTC

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@nprofile…uvqr What do you think of dragging in (just) :clim and :clim-lisp from mcclim to support your elisp implementation? I wonder if presentation methods, extended streams/panes and frames will be-finish reasonable swathes of elisp features.

2025-04-17 00:30:02 UTC

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@nprofile…uvqr I guess this means a more-or-less compatible emacs lisp implementation in McCLIM clim-lisp common lisp. A task to which common lisp is well suited, see above. (Fin.).⬜

2025-04-17 00:27:36 UTC

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@nprofile…uvqr 3/2 in the context of your question, I'd argue that a rich interface such as emacs is sufficiently far from ansi common lisp that it is like Sandewall's CEL: It needs its own specific domain lisp (emacs lisp, as it happens). It's an unfortunate accident of history that linux, basically, is deeply connected to C/C++. My next project is to echo kmp in porting ZWEI emacs from dynamicwindows pre-ansi common lisp to dynamicwindows' modern successor clim spec "clim-lisp" made of commonlisp.

2025-04-16 23:53:14 UTC

Ugh, I'm procrastinating putting any actually interesting functionality into my new #emacs #elisp mode #AMA #lisp #deextinction #cognitive #AI
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2025-04-16 05:42:20 UTC

@nprofile…2sk2 @nprofile…ew2u
Do you two think
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Example-Major-Modes.html
is a reasonable reference for cramming my elisp into one major mode? I was debating looking at Eduardo's eev, though I guess that's mostly minor mode based, or slime, but slime is like saying "I'm going to make my attic be like Valhalla" <_>

2025-04-16 04:13:26 UTC

@nprofile…de2h Tangentially burying myself under TODOs now that /one/ of them is 95% done (avoiding the second, much harder 95% behind it)
Can you imagine some kind of fantasy ed useage for lisp forms. Is that why your parens are laid out how they are in the first place?

2025-04-12 04:32:58 UTC

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@nprofile…de2h The specific thing I'm currently imagining is like, imagine we just wrote 100 mixins in a problem space where those mixins are useful somehow (alright, I get where you're going with "maybe we could make a fake dog successfully in one case after decades of it-being-about-to-pay-off)
with the theory that an expert human could just pick five mixins to be superclasses, and now the problem is solved, but the robot searches for groups of 10 mixins that are "good-enough" in combination

2025-04-12 04:18:31 UTC

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@nprofile…de2h
what do you think (in scifi programming land) of a robot doing some kind of A* over individual-actions-it-has-seen-a-human-do-before to search for 10 step solutions in contrast to a human drafting 5 (possibly original) step similar solutions.

2025-04-12 04:12:38 UTC

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@nprofile…de2h yeah, at the time of utterance in the 80s I guess, the magic number that had been researched up was 7, but decades of later work mostly pushed that number down to 5 or possibly 3 (at a time).

2025-04-12 04:07:15 UTC

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Another point is that six toots ago, you'll notice there were six layers of abstraction, this is a this in a this in a this which is a this controlled by this in this.
You'll note that six is less than seven (Waters': A function with more than seven arguements doesn't have enough arguements)
And /this/ useage is human-facing, but the robot internally can experiment with (probably modestly) longer chains.

2025-04-12 04:01:29 UTC

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A latent point is that all of slime, sandewall, lisp itself make extensive customised use of lisp's debugging protocol, which I'll point out in Winograd saying that memory formation in humans is closely related to what condition handling is (or shwould be) in lisp.

2025-04-12 03:55:25 UTC

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And of course via swank drive emacs themselves when they want to.

2025-04-12 03:55:08 UTC

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There's the latent point that I'm not /driving/ the software individual per se, I'm using emacs (i.e. issuing elisp commands), and the software individual who works on lisp forms can spectate me using emacs to talk to them as well.

2025-04-12 03:51:10 UTC

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This is basically one of my best ideas (note that the McCLIM slime is ecl-repl for unpictured grandeur and whimsy)

2025-04-12 03:47:48 UTC

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For clarity, these superclasses will end up as fluents- is-peasant, is-camelotian, is-true-king in an entity (well, arthur) in an entityfile in a knowledgebase in an agent in a software-individual.

2025-04-12 03:46:04 UTC

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I guess the software individual's proximal best source of information is to watch-me-use-the-slime-repl-when-I-do-things. However, this implies high granularity useage, like
'(defclass arthur () ())
(prog1 * (push 'peasant (third *)))
(prog1 * (push 'camelotian (third *)))
(prog1 * (push 'true-king (third *)))
instead of
(defclass arthur (true-king camelotian peasant) ())
or, a method of decomposing the latter into the former.

2025-04-12 03:23:38 UTC

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This provides a nontrivial indirection:
Instead of (1)
Using my personal beliefbase to drive a clim-lisp image
I use my McCLIM application-frame
I can (2)
Express my beliefbase to the software individual
Express my intent to the software individual
The software individual uses McCLIM according to /its/ beliefbase and conclusions
I use the software individual's application-frame
I don't *personally* have an A* inside of me, nor can I work with more than 7 conses at once. My robot though...

2025-04-12 03:12:49 UTC

I realized that I should have two #slime repls open, one running a Sandewallian software individual clisp-repl and one McCLIM running ecl-repl (or what have you) and things are getting weird.
This is because the software individual with a beliefbase about using McCLIM is /not/ the McCLIM lisp image itself, it is a separate lisp image that contains beliefs and actions for using McCLIM in another image. Which is trivial in #emacs with slime. #commonLisp #notThatCommonThoughTeeBeeAitch

2025-04-02 02:31:47 UTC

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@nprofile…ew2u I'll CC you on the shows in the future! But that's mostly what #lispyGopherClimate is/for.

2025-04-02 02:19:47 UTC

#peertube #archive #lispyGopherClimate https://communitymedia.video/w/bHafNcgW9jDXM1kdmdsyRo
#unix #emacs #theUnixPhilosophy #lisp #interview
@nprofile…ew2u I guess the RSS is https://communitymedia.video/feeds/videos.xml?accountId=216498&token=8cb5dc2f-82e7-4d3f-ad2c-95457f46b631 and I am going to put all the years there including your interviews... eventually. Might need to add subtitled/post-ex-facto video content.

2025-04-01 08:29:30 UTC

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@nprofile…tjcv
I didn't quite get it. Is the unified data structure interface piping text around?
@nprofile…ddfm

2025-04-01 08:03:15 UTC

#emacs #unix Miscellaneous notes on reading @nprofile…ddfm https://tilde.town/~ramin_hal9001/articles/emacs-fulfills-the-unix-philosophy.html
https://tilde.town/~ramin_hal9001/articles/emacs-unix-01_emacs-is-an-app-platform.html
https://tilde.town/~ramin_hal9001/articles/emacs-unix-02_what-is-the-unix-philosophy.html
https://tilde.town/~ramin_hal9001/articles/emacs-unix-03_unix-is-lesser-fp.html
https://tilde.town/~ramin_hal9001/articles/emacs-unix-04_lisp-does-fp-better-than-bash.html
https://tilde.town/~ramin_hal9001/articles/emacs-unix-05_unix-and-lisp-history.html
https://tilde.town/~ramin_hal9001/articles/emacs-unix-06_rebutting-critiques.html
For starters, excellent early history showing that unix and lisp are not direct relatives.
One small note that occurs to me is that in Mashey and Kernighan '84, they point at unix's shell's success at stopping people more C. 1/?? (but two for my purposes here)

2025-03-24 08:49:11 UTC

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@nprofile…y8ml to be clear are the colors cyan, magenta, yellow and black=white?
Thanks for your photos!

2025-03-22 11:01:24 UTC

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@nprofile…a46y lftp I think?

2025-03-21 20:08:37 UTC

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@nprofile…75j5
My goal was to simply provide lists of names, since I needed non-repeating lists of names for another language. Then, I thought there were countries other than NZ in the 1950s one could get names from. Certainly, it takes some figuring what to do with 250M of Argentinian naming events ;p
@nprofile…3e0r

2025-03-21 05:34:17 UTC

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Oh I should have added ignore-package-locks unintern to it

2025-03-21 05:33:03 UTC

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(defun rename
(symbol
&optional
(names (append common-names/names:*girls* common-names/names:*boys*)))
(let ((name (loop :for r := (random (length names)) :for name := (intern (nth r names)) :while (or (boundp name) (fboundp name)) :finally (return name))))
(when (boundp symbol) (setf (symbol-value name) (symbol-value symbol)))
(when (fboundp symbol) (setf (symbol-function name) (symbol-function symbol)))
(values name)))
RENAME
(rename '+)
|Mia|
(|Mia| 1 2)
3

2025-03-21 05:13:00 UTC

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Hmm, does anyone have any other countries for example? @nprofile…3e0r

2025-03-21 05:05:29 UTC

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#itch #gamedev #devlog #programming #common-lisp #mcclim name-picker app. https://lispy-gopher-show.itch.io/lispmoo2/devlog/909471/common-names-lisp-and-random-names-app
Welp, it's useful to me.

2025-03-21 04:27:53 UTC

#programming #commonNames
Hey, I made a quick #commonLisp utility package that just provides 200 names https://codeberg.org/tfw/common-names .
The initial names are the top 100 most common historically collected girls and boys birth names in #NZ from 1954 to 2024.

2025-03-18 22:37:55 UTC

#lispyGopherClimate #live 0UTC one hour from tooting https://anonradio.net:8443/anonradio #gopher #technology #podcast #lisp
#climateCrisis #haiku from @nprofile…9z2k thanks as always!
#interview with exceptionally #libre #gopher @nprofile…s2xg gopher://gopher.someodd.zip and #haskell #programmer . They run a lot of libre services as well. As always questions, boosts welcome
Chat in #lambdaMOO as always
telnet lambda.moo.mud.org 8888
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@nprofile…uhpl @nprofile…x3m4 @nprofile…sr67 @nprofile…7j56 @nprofile…de2h
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2025-03-16 01:51:09 UTC

#itch #gamedev #programming #devlog https://lispy-gopher-show.itch.io/lispmoo2/devlog/906389/my-programming-principles-for-game-dev-12 concerning #softwareEngineering
Listing and defending the best conjunction of #commonLisp packages and programming strategy I can muster. A part one out of two or possibly three.
TO HEAD OFF CONTROVERSY
At one point I say "lisp is the best" and then give a specific example of some python changes over the last ten years. Please consider my whole point, which is clearly and specifically about LISP's age compared to other languages.

2025-03-11 23:28:42 UTC

#lispyGopherClimate #live #programming #lisp #podcast
Live on the hour. Tune in now to catch @nprofile…rhse ' great show though.
https://anonradio.net:8443/anonradio
@nprofile…9z2k #climateCrisis #haiku
I'm fasting for some edicalmay rocedurepay so "low energy hangout" please.
I will throw you some primary journalism on the US/NZ/UK #ai #toTheHilt policy as it is existing now in practice.
Then I want to talk about programming that matters and why running the same llm again (faster) doesn't matter.
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2025-03-05 22:45:14 UTC

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@nprofile…vnmn is this a reference to Max Barry's Syrup?

2025-03-04 22:07:27 UTC

#lispyGopherClimate #lisp #programming #podcast #live Wednesday 0UTC
https://anonradio.net:8443/anonradio !
#climateCrisis #haiku and #risk #inequality #essay by @nprofile…9z2k
https://netsettlement.blogspot.com/2013/08/lien-times-for-startups.html
#libre #archive update from @nprofile…x3m4 https://gamerplus.org/@hairylarry/114106383066762290
https://www.european-lisp-symposium.org/2025/index.html
#ELS2025 submissions extended to Sunday. #LaTeX #ACM #primer / past #proceedings
Notes from my first #language #parser #commonLisp #mcclim #chess
If there are guests, there are guests(?)
@nprofile…de2h @nprofile…sr67 @nprofile…de2h
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2025-02-27 02:40:09 UTC

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@nprofile…hstv aeroport

2025-02-26 03:28:18 UTC

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@nprofile…ddfm
No worries, though if we can find a time you can be coincident with @nprofile…0kl5 whom also schemes I think, that would be cool.

2025-02-26 01:54:19 UTC

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#lispyGopherClimate #archive
https://archives.anonradio.net/202502260000_screwtape.mp3
@nprofile…qudt @nprofile…sr67 thanks for jumping in live !
#RustlingVermillionBeetle #lisp
@nprofile…29fa @nprofile…9z2k @nprofile…myje @nprofile…70dy @nprofile…ew2u @nprofile…ddfm

2025-02-25 23:56:21 UTC

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@nprofile…29fa
yeah, I'm a little nervous about presenting that polemic ;p. Come hang in lambdamoo
Also, @nprofile…qudt is live in-MOO, just sayin' everyone. (And Slak). Author of-> https://sarilho.net/en/
@nprofile…9z2k @nprofile…myje @nprofile…sr67 @nprofile…70dy @nprofile…ew2u @nprofile…ddfm

2025-02-25 22:56:31 UTC

#lispyGopherClimate #lisp #softwareEngineering #podcast
#climate #haiku from @nprofile…9z2k
https://anonradio.net:8443/anonradio 0UTC Wed!
Break from guests this week just
Richard P Gabriel's essay Incommensurability (2012) vs @nprofile…myje 's #Systems #software #Research is Irrelevant (2000).
(#live).
In the context of our interviews in the last two months with yduJ, Kent Pitman, Larry Masinter, Sacha and Ramin.
Hang out in #lambdaMOO #live as always!
telnet lambda.moo.mud.org 8888
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@join screwtape
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2025-02-21 09:07:16 UTC

#itch #itch_io #gamedev #devlog #commonLisp #programming
Getting back into that game dev saddle.
Demo successfully shows that *this* *was easy* *for everyone*.
#McCLIM #gui #unicode character world adventure for a
> (unget:unsy '(smiling cat))
😸
"😸"
|#x1F638|
#\GRINNING_CAT_FACE_WITH_SMILING_EYES
https://lispy-gopher-show.itch.io/lispmoo2/devlog/891545/gui-table-of-unicode-common-lisp-interface-manager-cat-adventure
I became tired while writing the codes so it's a story told through pictures and a video clip of #emacs.
Encourage me to write it up later. https://lispy-gopher-show.itch.io/lispmoo2/devlog/891545/gui-table-of-unicode-common-lisp-interface-manager-cat-adventure
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2025-02-20 21:59:27 UTC

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@nprofile…xaa5 wait, trichotomy or trachiostomy?

2025-02-19 08:09:54 UTC

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@nprofile…wy4s Not at all, yduJ at least is very cogent on her origins at Stanford in the early 80s into the usual series of lisp companies, and then as decades pass eventually winding up doing mostly java right now. So I suggest giving it a listen some time, though I guess I would ;p

2025-02-19 08:01:58 UTC

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@nprofile…5vy0
A bit of the combative tone comes from today's interview, since I think yduJ's breadth of experience and commentary should be taken seriously.
@nprofile…wy4s and my article make the point (phrased in a loaded way) of big business valuing the replaceable-employee-cog-ness of a language over difficult to specifiy feelings of expressiveness.
I think this conflict bears more investigation and commentary than it receives, but I am optimistic that writing on it does go somewhere
@nprofile…sr67 @nprofile…re6y

2025-02-18 21:39:57 UTC

#technology #podcast #lispyGopherClimate @nprofile…sr67 #live #Interview at 0UTC Wednesday (possibly your Tuesday evening)!
@nprofile…9z2k #climate #haiku
Two hours from this toot on https://anonradio.net:8443/anonradio
yduJ from #lambdaMOO and the usual #lisp companies/Stanford #AI lab original extraction.
you could leave questions here or #lambdaMOO as always:
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yduJ
https://nosrednayduj.dreamwidth.org/
http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~yduj/history.html
#recipe s
https://olum.org/yduj/recipe/
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2025-02-17 08:49:32 UTC

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@nprofile…kzuj
Doug linked John Allen's book which spends about 50 pages asking people to please not use car and cdr as though they were intended as general list manipulation tools, even though they might be literally implemented as first and rest, since it's a failure of abstraction or something.

2025-02-17 07:15:45 UTC

Hey everyone. I must admit, I don't believe I have ever seen someone enter #utf8 #unicode characters on a #computer in a sane way. Which seems weird, because a bunch of languages use them.
I wrote a #commonLisp #asdf package that just looks up a list of symbols in a file that has every non-surrogate unicode codepoint in it, and an #emacs #elisp function that just calls the #lisp one.
https://codeberg.org/tfw/unicode-chars
Multilingual people, what can you tell me about doing this at all?
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2025-02-15 21:09:09 UTC

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@nprofile…8qnt @nprofile…m2ru
Yeah,
(let ((alist '((:foo . bar) (:baz buz))))
(cdr (assoc :foo alist)) ; -> bar
(cadr (assoc :baz alist))) ; -> buz
There isn't a lot of cost (well, one cons to nil) of using cadr or second instead of cdr. And then you could store other stuff in later positions of the list as well. When I only knew the definitions of assoc and pairlis, I mostly used cdr, but then in lisp code I've read, like you said, the cadr one seems more common in lots of places.

2025-02-15 20:56:30 UTC

#programming #lowLevel #lisp #commonLisp #article #medium
I wrote a short description of how lisp is coded by writing lisp sequences (lists), and the low level dotted cons view of the lists.
I wrote a funny piece of lisp that outputs a lower triangular emacs orgmode matrix depiction of a lisp form.
https://medium.com/@screwlisp/lisp-code-in-dotted-conses-7b8e53486742
Which leaves me wondering, does anyone "use" or otherwise think about (a . (b . NIL)) the dotted cons way of writing lists while programming?
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2025-02-12 01:55:18 UTC

@nprofile…5map by the way Sasagawa implemented n-prolog on their easy-islisp

2025-02-11 23:13:54 UTC

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@nprofile…75j5
actually we will well-cover this.
@nprofile…tjcv @nprofile…e66m @nprofile…9z2k

2025-02-11 22:25:47 UTC

#lispyGopherClimate @nprofile…9z2k #live #interview #computerScience #programming #lisp #commonLisp #python with some special announcements and releases.
https://anonradio.net:8443/anonradio @nprofile…v96l
Reconnect if the stream is giving you troubles.
Interview 1 / ?
Please drop questions here beforehand or join us live in #lambdaMOO as always !
telnet lambda.moo.mud.org 8888
co guest
@join screwtape
@nprofile…sr67 @nprofile…ew2u @nprofile…x3m4 @nprofile…u3th @nprofile…re6y @nprofile…5map
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2025-02-11 21:47:32 UTC

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@nprofile…75j5 @nprofile…tjcv
@nprofile…e66m ?
Though i think in this interview in two hours we're going to cover extremely modern things like lisp style condition systems.
@nprofile…9z2k

2025-02-11 09:08:15 UTC

#lispyGopherClimate #important #announcement
Possibly I didn't bang the drum enough.
@nprofile…9z2k is joining me #live for the show - 0UTC Wednesday (so about 15 hours from now), Tuesday evening in the Americas. I'll toot the link on mastodon a few hours before the show as always.
If you could join and ask questions live or beforehand here in this thread (if you join through the archive).
#lisp #commonLisp #python #computerScience #programming #podcast #climate
#boost visibility please.
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2025-02-10 23:16:26 UTC

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@nprofile…hstv I have to think about what mathematically we're describing happening, but a #McCLIM app where you have a string between two circles you can move around to tauten or relax the string, and can pull the string to an initial position and release it is a cool idea to make. I'll try and write a tutorial/explanation of doing that some time this week, and you can look at it and we can Make Some Adjustments in future.
I guess I might just use #sndfile for the sound eventually.

2025-02-10 23:10:01 UTC

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@nprofile…hstv that's a fun idea, are you imagining we're playing with the string thing on a touch screen, and it's transforming a pre-loaded sound byte?

2025-02-10 22:46:38 UTC

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@nprofile…hstv
Original programming for music is I think a central modern art, or should be. Imagine a hundred thousand years ago early humans whittling and playing bone flutes together in caves. This is the fundamental human activity, and we should be doing that modernly as well (but with computer programs instead of bones).
One tricky bit is that music programming is that it is fundamentally mathematical, since music is basically our ears describing Fourier transforms to us.

2025-02-10 22:43:16 UTC

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@nprofile…hstv thanks! Kind-of. I do try to share and in some sense illustrate bits that are important to know (if they're what you want to do) that I think are difficult to attain or almost lost knowledge for newcomers, but then I guess sharing things people don't have context for is kind of unapproachable too ;p
On the topic of doing a bit of programming, do you want to try a running back-and-forth featuring some of your ideas, and me just saying a way that occurs to me to do them?
Caveat

2025-02-03 22:14:53 UTC

I wrote a better #medium #tutorial #article #parody of #python #programming #tutorial in which I hilariously misunderstood python to be a reference to #sbcl #commonLisp #lisp (heir to CMUCL python).
https://medium.com/@screwlisp/this-is-a-python-common-lisp-meaning-tutorial-redux-of-a-python-young-scripting-language-3b360fd8f59e
I also address two fascinating medium trends I discovered.
1. The intense swapping-whispered-ghost-stories about lisp by scientist writers
2. Most articles named "Free Python Tutorial!" have no code, but links to purchasing training.
I eventually found "11 one-liners"
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2025-01-11 06:08:40 UTC

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@nprofile…r3q5 this is literally humans being put in zoo enclosures, isn't it?

2025-01-11 06:08:06 UTC

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@nprofile…r3q5 That's an odd finding. Slop has ruined the internet as a source of training data, so AI companies are seeking to build nobot human smallweb -like internet communities.

2024-11-30 21:56:00 UTC

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@nprofile…u3th oh yeah, it's true o/ @nprofile…vuu5 how are things?

2024-11-30 21:41:33 UTC

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@nprofile…u3th
it's basically you, me and ASDF itself right?

2024-11-30 20:17:33 UTC

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@nprofile…u3th haha, every time I read something that person wrote I have to control my urge to put my finger into their eye on basically every line.

2024-11-30 20:04:45 UTC

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@nprofile…u3th the reason for that install and remove is that you can install series into your package, use series to implement a function, and then uninstall series to clean up, and you still have the series-made function in your package

2024-11-30 20:03:17 UTC

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@nprofile…u3th I was a diehard loop person! And then Waters' Series did a better job than me at implementing fizzbuzz with much less work, and I had to adjust my universe to account for that.

2024-11-30 19:58:47 UTC

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@nprofile…u3th
Interesting but no, this is series:iterate which is a lazily evaluated let form that maps over serieses. It's like
> (ql:Quickload :series)
> (series::install)
> (iterate ((numbers (scan '(1 2 3)))
(more-numbers (scan '(1/2 3/2 4/3))))
(print (+ numbers more-numbers)))
3/2
7/2
13/3
NIL
> (series::install :remove t)

2024-11-30 06:56:48 UTC

#lispmoo2 eeh, I added persisting changes. The way I did it was to use Waters' #Series and
(iterate ((s (scan-symbols pkg))
(with-open-file (out path/to/git/pkgname.limo :direction :output :if-exists :append)
(format out "{ @create ~s :named ~s } x~%" (first (get s :parents)) s)))
I guess I'm not meant to use format like this; I'm meant to customize pretty printing using format and then just use print, I guess, but w/e. #lisp

2024-11-29 01:47:12 UTC

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@nprofile…7j56 back me up here ;p
@nprofile…m2ru @nprofile…qudt

2024-11-29 01:45:19 UTC

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@nprofile…m2ru
@nprofile…qudt authors https://sarilho.net/en/ , a comic about a visitor-style alien's experience in this scifi sorta-Europe on-and-off war that's happening.
As you know, I've been working on including elements of MOOing into my lisp development images, such as player classes, and players that are MOO-style-puppets whom I think resemble some of Shizamura's characters.
So I am trying to get them on a jitsi call during the next show or something, but I sound quite crazy, so.

2024-11-29 01:38:36 UTC

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@nprofile…qudt
I'll make some videos of hanging out in lambda and my own lisp image stuff. Though the real trick is to find a terminal and type
telnet lambda.moo.mud.org 80
co guest
I'm interested in hearing about your scifi world people stroke aliens. I just volunteered a bit too much real life context.
@nprofile…m2ru

2024-11-29 01:35:38 UTC

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@nprofile…qudt
Yeah sorry, I read your comic, but then I'm talking about niche Good Old Fashioned AI things. You know how in O Sarilho, the sorta internet they connect to is a person or people. This idea was quite common in research programming, programs being something like long-lived game NPCs.
In the shared-text-adventure-but-it's-actually-real-life LambdaMOO, these NPCs are called puppets. I want to abduct your science fantasy vibes into my real life lisp programming.
@nprofile…m2ru

2024-11-29 00:23:40 UTC

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@nprofile…m2ru Fun story about Newt. Kind of presaging Basshunter's Boten Anna song.
I dunno if you ran into Minix yet in Lambda, but they pointed me to https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10458-006-0005-z (Cobot, the self-programming community robot) as well. When you see people who have installed the boogie feature in their player class, they probably got it from Minix.
@nprofile…qudt has many characters who have or have installed new or otherwise different features that change what they are socially and cognitively.

2024-11-28 21:03:38 UTC

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@nprofile…qudt logical problems. Sometimes I treat the player class (called repeatedly-eval-qt) as though it's a different person, but then I also made them into one of my own parents, so I'm a derivative of them. In MOO terms, I guess they are what is called a puppet class (like Emily, from last week).
But it also seems like repeatedly-eval-qt is a "kind of player" rather than a particular player, but they sometimes operate as a particular player. I'm trying to sort these ideas out. 3/2

2024-11-28 21:00:05 UTC

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@nprofile…qudt
you have a wide variety of what I see as different player derived classes (ontologically). Zombies, alien-possessed, alien-inhabited-zombie, magic users, technologists, politicians, soldiers, civilians.
Now in my lisp image, I wanted to "run game scripts" basically. So I made a new player class, which could run "in-game" scripts, worked great.
But I was jealous of how productive they were, so I pushed them to my own parents-list. Now I too can run scripts.
But there are onto

2024-11-28 20:55:07 UTC

@nprofile…qudt if you want to hang out live for Wednesday's lispy gopher climate (000UTC Wednesday), I came up with some topics I perceive you to have worked extensively on in your https://sarilho.net/en/ we could wander around together. We normally hang out in Paradise Sushi in https://lambda.moo.mud.org/ , but we could have a jitsi-call on top of that.
Recently, I added my new MUD, Object Oriented DSL to my lisp images (ie multiplayer text based game world building elements).
In your comic: 1/2

2024-11-17 02:51:00 UTC

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@nprofile…57a8
Ugh, it's 10x slower than this loop facility one.
(defun loopfizz-of (no)
(let ((res (loop :repeat (1+ no)
:for x :from 0 :by 1 :for y := '0 :then y :for z := '0 :then z
:when (eql x y) :do (incf y 3)
:When (eql x z) :do (incf z 5)
:finally (return (list x (decf y 3) (decf z 5))))))
(cond ((and (= (car res) (cadr res)) (= (car res) (caddr res))) '(fizz buzz))
((= (car res) (cadr res)) '(fizz)) ((= (car res) (caddr res)) '(buzz))
(:otherwise (butlast res 2)))))

2024-11-17 02:28:57 UTC

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Who named this "lazy" ?
@nprofile…57a8 was it you?

2024-11-17 02:26:35 UTC

I cannot say this is the easiest thing I have ever written. #lisp
(defun fizzbuzz-of (x)
(let* ((nos (scan-range))
(fizz-src (series 'fizz))
(buzz-src (series 'buzz))
(by3s (scan-range :from 0 :by 3))
(by5s (Scan-range :from 0 :by 5))
(fizzes (mask by3s))
(buzzes (mask by5s))
(fizz/buzzes (#Mlist (#Mand fizzes fizz-src)
(#Mand buzzes buzz-src))))
(or (collect (choose-if #'identity
(scan (collect-nth x fizz/buzzes))))
(list (collect-nth x nos)))))

2024-10-18 02:47:48 UTC

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Alright I've gone crazy and/or stolen half of this idea from all of jmbr, Sussman, probably kmp, lmm, yduJ and crew and others except so far as this is incoherent aeroport cafe for hours talk and one could want to distance themselves ;p

2024-10-18 02:45:15 UTC

Viz my https://codeberg.org/tfw/moonclimb prospective MOOimplementation inside a running lisp image,
If that lisp is the C++ libecl.so (i e embeddable common lisp)
and I've eaten https://enzyme.mit.edu/ using ECL (i e aribtrary derivation of clang IR whatever (hey, including the moo embedded in the embeddable lisp embedded iny an arbitrary C++ program)
Basically every program is a MOO server having automatic grad of its functions

2024-10-18 01:59:44 UTC

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@npub1n8d…9ap0 I just paid $6.50 for a coffee in an aeroport.

2024-10-17 21:49:50 UTC

@npub18s7…gq9a I hope I'm ready to go read #SICP a second time. When I "read it" a long time ago, I mostly just went mechanically through it to show I can push the right buttons on my keyboard when prompted. Your https://simondobson.org/2010/05/14/cs-book-worth-reading-twice/ is also worth reading twice! #scheme #lisp #computerScience #mathematics

2024-10-16 07:12:59 UTC

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@npub1hmg…aj2k oh, yeah thoughts and prayers

2024-10-16 07:05:04 UTC

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@npub1hmg…aj2k I don't understand these words, is this something I have to worry about

2024-10-16 06:11:44 UTC

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@npub1xth…u6wq
@npub1hhz…03sd can you venerate this artifact

2024-10-16 06:06:49 UTC

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@npub1xth…u6wq
I had an inexplicable premonition of this thing being worth millions after you die