M. Dilger on Nostr: You and I don't disagree on actuals, but we are using entirely different initial ...

You and I don't disagree on actuals, but we are using entirely different initial framings. You are considering Israel as the state. I am not.

I am saying that the State of Palestine (e.g. Fatah or Hamas) is ineffective in protecting it's citizens from foreigners (the Israelis), and it is this lack of an effective state that allows Israel to trample on them.

But my point to the OP is that it is possible for states to provide a service to their citizens via the monopoly on violence, irrespective of any examples.