OK, but those arguments started when? Mid-twentieth century? There was approximately 1,700 years between the first (known) church building and somebody saying "hey wait, this is a bad idea. This isn't working. That's isn't what Peter/Paul/Mark said to do"?
Really? We're taking every single country too. Churches built in Palestine, Greece, Europe, Africa, all the way to India. Christianity feel into the exact same unforseen grave error everywhere the apostles set foot?
PLUS we don't even know when the first church was actually built. There may very well have been a church building constructed somewhere on the fringes of pagan Rome that was visited by a living apostle. Seriously. Britain, Ethiopia, and India would be the likely spots.
The whole thing is twentieth-century nonsense. It's just not plausible. And it's not about the building. It's about submission. House church people I've met in real life, at least, want to make a new church just the way they want it. They want to figure everything out for themselves. I've never once met one who wants to worship in a house, but be under any ecclesiological authority. What about you? Does your house church ideal the local bishop visiting to celebrate the eucharist and confirm new converts (lay hands on them so they may recurve the holy ghost, per the explicit scriptural practice). Will you make a public confession when he visits so you can make a good communion with a clear conscience? Because that's exactly what the REAL pre-constantinian house church Christians were doing. We have records. Is that the house church you imagine?
Jimmy
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