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weev on Nostr: I just want to highlight a potential logical fallacy to you all. Every time normal ...

I just want to highlight a potential logical fallacy to you all. Every time normal people, of which there are no small number, document their problems with Lightning, there are always people chiming in “I run my own LND node and things work just fine!” Or “if you use $x everything works great”. But the presented app $x is never the most widely deployed services. Paul Sztorc’s criticisms of LN are based on his claim that it fails at scale, and that the more people are on LN that the more problems it is going to have, up to the point where it becomes catastrophic as there is not enough L1 bytes for any significant number people to open channels or exit to the L1.

Well, the vast majority of vendors using LN are using different apps. And if Square is having these problems of scale and people using it are constantly reporting failures, there’s two possibilities. The first possibility is that Jack Dorsey and everyone at Square is absolutely fucking incompetent and have halfassed their LN deployment. As well as everyone at Coinbase (failures on LN deposits to Coinbase are extremely common). Or the other possibility is as that Paul Sztorc is correct, and aspects of the LN protocol seem to invite failures as a greater number of people are using the service. I only see people who process very low numbers of payments in nonstandard configurations saying LN works great. Everyone I know that is not deeply involved in Bitcoin professionally seems to think it has serious problems.