John Carlos Baez on Nostr: wrote: " I'm trying to reconcile our points of view, and the only way we can both be ...

wrote: " I'm trying to reconcile our points of view, and the only way we can both be right if we are using different definitions."

Another way is that we're talking about different things. I was talking about *local* events, like this:

""Right before you hit the horizon, you will see your body turned into a razor blade and your nose will get red-shifted."

I said that's impossible because spacetime is always locally close to Minkowski spacetime, even at the horizon, and this effect doesn't happen in MInkowski spacetime.

Now you've switched to talking about *distant* events, like this:

"If there are multiple ships, I will "see" them squeezed in front of the horizon."

That's a completely different issue. I don't want to talk about it until we get the first issue straightened out. If you can't tell the difference between these issues, that's a big problem.