Ok so nostr relay Idea is almost done. Its not WOT but a rep system that rewards human interaction and not bot like behavior (I hope).
Everyone starts out on neutral on the relay. Simply passing spam checks boosts rep. Interaction from others reactions, comments, zaps, boosts, all these boost rep, all are equally weighted. Valid nip-05 also boosts rep. Not having a nip-05 does nothing, but having an invalid Nip-05 slowly dings rep.
Spam like behavior also dings rep and can eventually get you kicked off the relay. To be fair, I'm also still trying to work out what is bot like behavior. I'm mostly taking this from the spam filter I made to block the replyguy shit on Freelay. I don't want to anylise the content of a note, not trying to dictate what can and can not be said, but id like to stop bots from annoying people.
One thing I did implement is a 1984 report will affect your rep and if enough people hit you with a report you can be nuked off the relay (im not 100% sure on this choice yet. I know it enables mob behavior or bots could mass report and nuke legit users so i might nuke this aspect or if someone has a better way to use this Im all ears). The idea behind this is so users of the relay could kick people that are posting "objectionable" content. I know that's subjective but for example if someone is posting a bunch of AI porn and if users of the relay don't want to see that they can effectively get it off the relay.
Relay has 2 databases "purgatory" where all notes get stored and looked at, this database is purged frequently. The second database is for trusted users and once you get to a certain trust level you get whitelisted and bypass purgatory. plus, a higher trust score gives you a higher rate limit and more time that your notes are stored.
I know people have a boner for WOT right now, so this idea might not be too popular, but this is my attempt at a more open relay system while still blocking spam. Not sure where it fits in the inbox/outbox model, but I'd like to see nostr remain open without the need of WOT, as IMO as WOT stands its mostly a bandaid for established users. I dont think WOT is bad.....just sloppy as it is right now.
I'm mostly posting this for feedback on the idea, so please rip it apart if you think it's dumb. I know a lot of human behavior can be gamed by someone good at making bots. I would take any advice here. Im still working out kinks. There is also part of my brain that is like "fuck a rep system" as I make this, so im trying to make it as fair and as open as I can.
#nostr #relays #asknostr
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