frozear on Nostr: You and I have had discussions like this before. I think it can be reduced to a ...

You and I have had discussions like this before. I think it can be reduced to a chicken and egg problem. What Mr. Brock and I are saying (I think) is the powerful will create or co-opt governments, that the force already exists before the government does.

The government is a consequence of force, not the source.