Alright. I understand what you are saying and I can tell you're extremely passionate about this, so let me ask you a simple question. I've asked this question to everyone that claims the moon is fake. At what point in the history of the world did every world leader, scientist, astronomer, physicist and anyone with any power to disseminate information all get together and decide to claim space was real and hide the existence of an ice wall and firmament? How is it explainable that groups of people that just outright hated each other through history all just agreed to hide this one thing, the existence of this ice wall. That not once in the history of the entire world has a single explorer said "I found the ice wall, its right here. I can give you directions to where I found it" and then been able to take anyone else to it, keeping in mind that there were people without advanced technology sailing and exploring for the better part of a millennium or more with no oversight and a world population low enough that it couldn't be patrolled. They couldn't even keep it a secret that they killed JFK let alone that we're living in the middle of a giant ice ring. Also what is the benefit to concealing it? A scam requires a punchline.
This isn't snarky, I'm legitimately looking for an answer if one exists but the only answers I normally get tell me to go to this dudes website that looks like it was made on geocities and he starts rambling about a mirage in the Great Lakes. This isn't a God vs Not-God argument either. In my head the existence of space does not disprove God. It simply means his creation was larger than the Earth itself to me
