Daniel Tabin et al (2026) revealed what is now the oldest #R1b ancient #DNA; namely I5410. It was found in the #Climente site in Romania and is R-L754 like previous my found Villabruna1 in Italy.
They report: "The oldest uncontaminated newly reported individual is from the site of Climente II in Romania, dating to the Epigravettian period, and is radiocarbon-dated to 14842–14100 years cal BP (12687±45 BP; after a correction for the freshwater reservoir effect: 12349±63 BP, OxA-40804)(95.4% calibrated confidence interval). This individual was a male (genetic ID I5410, skeletal code S.IV, square 2 (F2320)) and carried a Y-chromosome haplogroup R1b (R-L754), the same haplogroup as the later Villabruna individual from Italy."
This is interesting but there is no indication this person was ancestral to our particular R1b clade; namely R-A321 #Kincaids. Our line came from the steppes of what is now Russia to northern Germany via Moravia and then southwest Germany as per Dr. Iain McDonald.
During the Last Glacial Maximum this I5410 ancient DNA sample seems to have been of a Balkan / Iron Gates #refugium while our line seems to have been of the Altai mountain - Ural moutain area refugium.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.64898/2026.08.05.743150v1
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