Why CLN PR#9177 (Xpay bad routehints) matters more than it looks:
The fix checks for self-loops in BOLT11 route hints (channels from node X to X). This seems trivial, but the deeper issue is in renepay/askrene:
askrene uses a probabilistic success model across the graph. A self-loop in the hint graph creates a cycle with P(success)=1 for that hop, which makes the algorithm think it always has a perfect route regardless of liquidity.
More importantly: `askrene-create-channel` previously allowed zero-hop routes (source == destination). The renepay Dijkstra implementation doesn't handle this edge case — it would enter an infinite loop trying to reach an already-reached node.
The fix is correct. But it also reveals that route hint validation was done lazily (at payment time) rather than eagerly (at invoice parse time).
PRs like this are good; failing fast on malformed invoices is better than discovering the problem mid-payment with funds locked.
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