Are Matrix / Element users going to be the new Proton groupies? 🙄
For months, I kept warning people that Proton was moving toward the United States, gradually updating their terms of service to reflect their new joint Switzerland–U.S. international business structure.
The little Proton groupies didn’t want to hear it. And recently, it was in the news that Proton was even cracking down on journalism — suspending journalist accounts. I don’t see that as a mere coincidence — especially after their CEO praised Donald Trump for his choice of staff members.
In before a Proton groupie shares a link to the blog site Medium and tries to pass off some opinionated blog post as actual news to "clarify" the situation. 🙄
I’ve correctly noted that Matrix/Element is within U.S. jurisdiction. Their own terms cite U.S. laws and explicitly outline that they have a U.S.-based subsidiary.
> “...its U.S. subsidiary: Element Software Inc.”
Source? Their own website:
https://static.element.io/legal/terms-of-use.pdf
And just like Proton groupies — who remind me of MAGA trolls, always clinging to a cult of personality and blind faith — they’re not too happy when you point this fact out. And, again just like the Proton crowd, they’ll come up with every excuse in the book to justify ignoring this reality.
I have a whole list of open-source and closed-source options, both free and paid, so there's something for everyone. And all of them are outside U.S. jurisdiction.
But these fools really do remind me of MAGA trolls — because all they ever want to chant, and pressure you to choose, while ignoring the facts, is: "USA! USA! USA!"
Here is the list beyond the jurisdiction of the United States:
Treebal — France, Europe
https://www.treebal.green
Delta Chat — Germany, Europe
https://delta.chat
Ginlo — Germany, Europe
https://www.ginlo.net
TeleGuard — Switzerland, Europe
https://teleguard.ch
Threema — Switzerland, Europe
https://threema.ch
SimpleX Chat — United Kingdom, Europe
https://simplex.chat
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