Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ on Nostr: I still don't understand the idea behind ‘Forte’. Apart from the fact that it is ...

I still don't understand the idea behind ‘Forte’. Apart from the fact that it is a concept for a platform derived from the streams repo, which again comes with its own identity, name, standard licence and possibly a logo. This makes it the further development of (streams) into a Fediverse service that can be used in practice.

What I don't understand: Why did Zot/Nomad have to be kicked out? Zot/Nomad has the nomadic identity in its DNA. It is part of the basic concept of the protocol and is now fully developed. Sure... its use is limited to the ‘grid’, i.e. the entirety of Hubzilla hubs. But it simply works there.

Giving AcivityPub a nomadic identity is a really strong achievement by Mike. It really is a great extension of the AP protocol. But... if he now develops Forte exclusively with AP into a functioning platform, the nomadic identity will again be limited to the resulting ‘Forte Grid’, because I expect a number <1 that will implement AP nomadics in a new or existing AP Fediverse service. And with Mastodon, this nomadic identity will exist no later than the day that Christmas and Easter fall on the same day.

Now there were probably a few problems with the introduction of the nomadic AP in (streams). But I think they could have been eliminated and still used the tried and tested Zot/Nomad as the basis. Forte would have been the result... with better AP functionality. But it would have given you the opportunity to operate nomadically with the Hubzilla grid and thus have a much larger base.

But as it is, it's not really interesting for me. Why should I focus on a new niche project and leave my established (no longer quite so) niche project (after all, 174 hubs with just under 8,000 users at present)?

It is exciting. But the advantages of nomadic identity are very limited until the majority of other AP-based Fediverse services also implement it.