From what we see, people don't actively think about it. Removing discount is a must. All existing implementations violate the rules. We need a new discussion and consensus to restore out property rights.
More scientific/physics based take on BitcoinLens (nprofile…qxj6) would be like:
Most of Bitcoin's internal history (Big Bang + rapid expansion) happened within 1st halving therefore 1MB is the only safe option we have really.
>Do you think there is currently a clear way to protect against the block size inflation attack vector?
As of now we are actively exposed to this because 1/4 witness discount supported by all codebases. Spam is just one symptom. "Bear market" is a fiat version of this. Chain exceeding 1TB is another more real symptom. The root cause is witness discount paired with a bigger block. We must return to 1MB and no discounts.
Artel21 / Artel 21
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2026-07-11 09:26:45 UTC
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