Kinetix :canada: on Nostr: What in God's name is up with this project? I've been trying out Jami the past couple ...

What in God's name is up with this project?

I've been trying out Jami the past couple of weeks as there had been some mentions around about giving it a try, it might be a possible Skype replacement. Here's what I found:

* when setting up the Android client and adding a person to have a conversation with, getting a message to/from that other person might not work *at all*. Much toying of settings in the apps ensued. This is, to me, the *most basic* function of the app, and it was broken. It might work after a time, it might not. It might work if you changed networks. It might work if you fiddled with DHT or uPNP settings. It might not.

* Later, and after an app revision update or two, I tried setting up a conversation with a user on IOS. I have received messages from the IOS user, but they have not yet received a message from me. This is even after an update to this super-duper release you're posting about.

I've been to the project's website, wiki (which is not a wiki), forums, both code repo sites, followed your fedi account, and here's what I've seen:

* Your fedi account, until just now, hadn't posted since August, and it appears to be a one-way account that doesn't respond to people.
* Your website has quirks on it like, for the Android download page "Download Jami from Jami.net" which links to f-droid.org (jami.org != f-droid.org) - someone's filed a bug about this. This doesn't really smack of trust, though.
* You don't seem to have anyone paying attention to the forums - there's a couple of people (who don't appear to be, or identify as being part of the Jami project) sort of trying to help, kind of, sometimes, maybe, but otherwise there seems to be little interest taken in the issues people are having. People are moving to proprietary solutions because of the jank in the app
* Up until a few days ago, git.jami.net, where links to file bugs go to, and most code repo links that people find go to, which is apparently a mirror of review.jami.net, wasn't mirroring properly for a month, so it looked like the project may have been abandoned.
* I posted a bug report about the broken mirroring several days ago. While it appears the mirroring is fixed now, the bug report was deleted. Not responded to, not closed, not resolved, just *gone*.

To me, it seems like this project is super inwardly focused, whose only existence seems to be to try to do something for corporate use (I honestly can't imagine), but is completely missing the ball with people who are trying to communicate that they're not having a good time with the product, at all.

I don't know what kind of community you're trying to build around the product, but I don't see projects like this as very trustworthy (appearing to be on the brink of shutdown, refusing to have 2-way communication with the user base).

This is in no way a critique of the developers at all - this just appears to be a project that's lost and could probably find it's way if it would pay attention.

I suspect this post will fall on deaf ears, sadly.