i guess we could have had a fruitful conversation about online abusive behavior in the context of Nostr and relay operators; the practical, the preferable and the legal.
Instead we get just more drama.
In short: one npub makes claims about another npub, and that bothers that other npub so much to the point a letter written by a lawyer was send to a relay operator requesting (no explicit demands as far as i can tell btw) removal of posts.
Observing all this i wonder about a few things, and have some notes.
Why does one consistently engage with their harasser? Were the tools and means to disassociate/block not sufficient? Or was it mere personal psychological failure/folly in trying to defend ones name/honor irt some Anon out there? Or a combination of both? What if it is not some random Anon? What about this is something "tech" can deal with. what about this is just the "human"/inter-social domain, and what/when do things cross into the legal domain?
What role do relay operators play in all of this? Is there a difference between the type of relay? The relay in question is what could be called a "general" relay, in the sense there is no particular rhyme of reason to the content available on that relay. You would not query a relay feed from this relay, people use this relay as their in/out-box. This is important in a practical sense because removal of content on such a relay initiates a probably useless game of whack-a-mole.
It would however make sense if the relay is curated, and people do use the relay for the particular relay feed it provides; removal in that case does matter, because users specifically go to that "location" for whatever it is that "place" contains/provides.
There is more going on than just this hard distinction between general and curated relays, in terms of what replies to a post from not-followed and or previously unknown npubs one gets to see. But keeping this distinction up for a moment:
What does moderation imply? I can understand if a general relay wants to keep a "neutral carrier" position as much as possible, after all, a moderation decision on one thing, directly implies a moderation (non)decision on all the other content on the relay.
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