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Wignatia :cross_ortho_wooden2: :womenkitchen: on Nostr: > I wonder how they square the Israel circle in orthodoxy. SO GLAD YOU ASKED Lemme ...

> I wonder how they square the Israel circle in orthodoxy.
SO GLAD YOU ASKED

Lemme see if I can give something approximating a tl;dr. God knew when He created us we would misuse our will and fall. The Law of Moses (what people think the jews abide by, but they don't) was the remedy He gave to heal man of the sickness of sin. Israel was to lead all of mankind in repentance back to God--that is the source of all this "chosen" business--but instead they whored after strange gods, or reduced their faith to a set of complex rules that had to be followed punctiliously. In due time He came to dwell among us, was incarnated, and began to preach. The jews rejected him deliberately and killed him. He knew they would do this. He warned them about what would happen. They wanted a strong man of war and a gifted political leader that would overthrow Rome, just as people want something like this now. They could not believe the Messiah came telling them they couldn't get divorced, couldn't lust after strange women, and that they must give up their attachment to worldly things and turn the other cheek to violence. Then, as now, this was not the message people wanted to hear. So they killed him. After this, God was finished with them.

When Christ rose from the dead, and ascended bodily, his disciples went out on His orders (ordination) and preached the Gospel of Life. A people was born that wanted to hear this word. Some were jews and some were gentiles. This is the new Israel: us. We are living out the story begun in the Old Testament and fulfilled in the New Testament. The people that call themselves jews are wasreal. Their entire identity for 2,000 years is based on rejecting God and refusing to repent.

That's as short as I can make it.

Deacon Ezra Ham lays out the Biblical case for this in Finding the Church Jesus Built. Having been Anglican, I was not raised with the dispensationalist heresy, but I still needed to be spiritually j-pilled. Deacon Ezra's teachings were invaluable in understanding all this.

You should come to Liturgy, Vulpes. We would love to have you.

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