Tiota Sram on Nostr: yes. I did read that example in detail. The bone I'm picking is whether memorization ...

yes. I did read that example in detail. The bone I'm picking is whether memorization should count as "not reading" because the means is inappropriate, or because it represents a different task entirely. Your example of "different task" is:

(2) “he didn’t really read what I said, he just responded to the tone” (not the same task)

To me, reciting memorized words is clearly a different task than speaking words based on visual recognition of symbols. To you, those are simply two different means of accomplishing the same task, which *some* means-based definitions of reading would exclude but which other definitions of reading might include. I'm fine with the notion that I might not agree with everyone about the definition of reading and that some people might use one that does include memorization. But is that liberalism along the means or the task axis?

Re-reading that section, I don't see a formal definition of either "means" or "task": you define them by giving a few examples in both the reading and then reasoning cases. I guess a more formal definition of what you mean by "means" and "task" would be helpful. For example, I could imagine saying "the means axis encompasses all parts of a definition which hinge on the *process* used, irrespective of outcomes or goals." However, your example definition of the reading *task* states:

‘extracting meaning from written text'

By that measure memorization fails to meet the task definition if the cues used for recall are not all within the text itself, (for example, memorizing text based on the question number or picture associated with it), which I guess is what I supposed was meant by "just memorizing." Furthermore, "from written text" *could* be interpreted/expressed as a constraint on the process uses to arrive at meaning (it must make use of the text) which then means that "task" is not totally separate from the "means" using the process-based definition of "means" I just proposed.

So... What are your definitions of the "task" and "means" dimensions?