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Someone asked me what it takes to put on a 5MW infra plan so i wrote it up with cost avg.... here ya go world.
1,428 MicroBT ASICs at 3.5 kW each on a raw 5 MW bus. If you budget a realistic PUE 1.05 - 1.10, that’s 1,360–1,300 miners powered concurrently.
Maths:
Raw count: 5,000 kW / 3.5 kW ≈ 1,428 units.
Container plan
Spec’d 4 × 1.5 MW containers = 6 MW of rack capacity. Your generation is 5 MW.
Oversized here for 80% infra to mitigate heat issues durring summer months.
Run 1.5 MW container at ~1.25 MW per container (even split). a 1.25 MW container 357 asics.
Electrical one-liner (clean and cheap) shouldn't be more that few hundred dollars to electrical engineers office.
Best practice to kill copper costs and voltage drop:
1. Paralleled gens: 2 × 2.5 MW turbines at 480 V into a 480 V generator switchboard, each on a ~3,200 A breaker (2.5 MW/(√3·480·0.95) ≈ 3,165 A).
2. Step-up to MV: 2 × 2.5 MVA 0.48 kV to 4.16 kV transformers (or 13.8 kV). Tie to an MV bus.
3. Distribute MV to pads near each container.
4. Step-down at the edge: 4 × 1.25–1.5 MVA MV to 415Y/240 V pad-mounts, one per container.
5. LV switchboard at each container feeds PDUs.
Why I recommend this: pulling 7,300 A at 415 V across site is a cable, cost crime. MV distribution fixes that.
Main 480 V board to 2 × 2.5 MVA 480 to 415Y/240 V transformers in parallel → common 415 V board.
From 415 V board to each container:
1.5 MW feeder current ≈ 2,200 A (1.5 MW/(√3·415·0.95)).
Expect 5–6 runs/phase of 500 kcmil Cu or 7–8 runs/phase of 750 kcmil Al per container to stay within ampacity and voltage-drop limits (exact run count depends on length, ambient, grouping, and NEC derates).
Transformer sizing and notes
Edge pad-mounts: 1.25–1.5 MVA, MV primary (4.16 or 13.8 kV), 415Y/240 V secondary, Z ~ 5–6%, ONAN/NEMA 3R, taps ±2×2.5%.
Central step-up: 0.48 feed to MV at 2.5 MVA each, or buy turbines with MV alternators and skip the step up.
If staying LV-LV: dry-type 2.5 MVA 480Δ to 415Y/240 exists off the shelf.
Switchgear and breakers (typical)
480 V generator breakers: 3,200–3,500 A each.
415 V main bus rating: ≥8,000 A if centralized.
Container feeders: 2,000–2,500 A frame per 1.25–1.5 MW container, adjustable trips set by cable study.
Conductor quick math (centralized LV case)
Site-total at 415 V: ~7,300 A (5 MW/(√3·415·0.95)).
Per container: ~2,200 A at 1.5 MW; 1,830 A at 1.25 MW.
Feeder count guide (THHN/XHHW-2, 75–90 °C, in multiple conduits): plan 5–6× 500 kcmil Cu/phase for 1.5 MW over modest distances. Check voltage drop and derates before final.
Rough capex ranges (equipment only, excludes site/civils/MEP/labor)
Gas turbines 2.5 MW class: equipment-only $700–$1,200/kW at this scale.
Two units avg $3.5–$6.0 M range pending make/model and package.
Capstone path is modular (C1000S = 1 MW blocks), often priced used/new per unit; multi-MW achieved in parallel.
Pad-mount transformers 2.5 MVA: $90k–$150k each depending on voltage and options.
1.25–1.5 MW mining containers (shells): wide spread. Air-cooled 20–40 ft units typically $50k–$150k; high-density or hydro options can push higher.
Cabling/switchgear: highly distance-dependent. Centralized LV design balloons copper. MV distribution plus edge step-downs usually cuts conductor cost by 40–60% vs long 415 V pulls. (Engineering judgment; validate with your actual runs.)
Deliverables you can lift into RFQs
Generation: 2 × 2.5 MW natural-gas turbines, 480 V alternators, continuous duty, black-start package, utility-grade sync/protection.
Transformers:
Option A(my recommendation): 2 × 2.5 MVA 480→4.16 kV step-up; 4 × 1.25–1.5 MVA 4.16 kV→415Y/240 V pad-mounts at container pads.
Option B (LV-LV): 2 × 2.5 MVA 480→415Y/240 V near gens; 4 × 2,000–2,500 A 415 V feeders to containers.
Switchgear: 480 V gen board with two 3,200 A breakers and tie; MV switchgear with four feeders; or 415 V board with four 2,000–2,500 A feeders.
Conductors: Per container feeder sized for 1.25–1.5 MW at 415 V. Plan 5–6 × 500 kcmil Cu/phase (or 7–8 × 750 kcmil Al/phase) for short-to-moderate runs; finalize by NEC 310 ampacity, 250.122 EGC, and voltage-drop calcs.
COSTS ASSOCIATED NEW VS USED:
clean parts-only build sheet for 5 MW at 3.5 kW/ASIC. Count = 1,428 ASICs $285,600 at $200 each. Everything else is line-itemed New vs Refurb with assumptions stated.
Assumptions
Power topology: 2× 2.5 MW gens, central 480 to 415/240 step-down (2× 2.5 MVA), then 415 V feeders to 4× containers.
Feeder length placeholder = 200 ft per container. Change L and multiply.
Feeder sizing (415 V) per 1.25–1.5 MW container: 5 parallel runs/phase of 500 kcmil Cu (or 750 kcmil Al) with neutral and EGC in each conduit. That’s 25 conductors/container.
Electrical labor $150/hr. Crane allowance shown. Transport $50k total. Gas hookups $25k.
Unit prices (to calc conductors and options)
500 kcmil Cu THHN: ~$12.5–$17.1/ft. Use $15/ft midpoint.
750 kcmil Al XHHW-2: ~$6.8–$7.7/ft. Use $7.25/ft.
15 kV MV-105, 350 kcmil (for future MV option): ~$32/ft.
2.5 MVA LV-LV 480Δ→415Y/240 (new, NEMA 3R/dry or pad-mount oil): budget $220k–$260k each; use $240k. Example new 2.5 MVA pad-mount pricing shown. Refurb comps in the $20k–$100k band depending on type.
2.5 MW turbines/gens (continuous duty): New $1.3M–$1.8M each (use $1.6M mid); Refurb/used $0.6M–$1.0M (use $0.8M). Comps shown (CAT 2.5 MW new, MTU 2.5 MW new, Jenbacher 2–2.5 MW used).
Mining containers 1.5 MW: Used $50k, New $150k.
Crane: allow $25k–$35k total for 2–3 days of 100–175 ton with mobilization.
Conductor maths (per container @ 415 V, 200 ft)
Copper option: 25 conductors × 200 ft = 5,000 conductor-ft × $15/ft = $75,000 per container is $300,000 for 4.
Aluminum option: 5,000 conductor-ft × $7.25/ft = $36,250 per container is $145,000 for 4.
(Formula to adjust: Total $ = containers × 25 × length(ft) × unit $/ft.)
Line-item quote (NEW build)
2× 2.5 MW gas turbines/gens, new @ $1,600,000 … $3,200,000.
2× 2.5 MVA 480 step down 415/240 transformers, new @ $240,000 … $480,000.
4× 1.5 MW mining containers, new @ $150,000 … $600,000.
415 V feeders (Cu, as specced) = $300,000 at 200 ft/container.
Main/switchgear & distribution (480 V + 415 V boards, breakers, protection): $250,000 (allowance, new).
ASICs 1,428 @ $200 … $285,600.
Electrical labor allowance 1,200 hrs × $150/hr … $180,000.
Crane allowance … $30,000.
Transportation … $50,000.
Gas hookups … $25,000.
NEW total ≈ $5,401,000.
Line-item quote (REFURB/USED build)
2× 2.5 MW turbines/gens, refurb @ $800,000 … $1,600,000.
2× 2.5 MVA 480→415/240 transformers, refurb @ $80,000 … $160,000.
4× 1.5 MW mining containers, used @ $50,000 … $200,000.
415 V feeders (Al option) ≈ $145,000 at 200 ft/container.
Switchgear refurb allowance … $120,000.
ASICs 1,428 @ $200 … $285,600.
Electrical labor $180,000.
Crane $30,000.
Transportation $50,000.
Gas hookups $25,000.
REFURB/USED total ≈ $2,796,000.
Notes that save you money
If you flip to MV distribution (480→4.16/13.8 kV near gens, pad-mounts at each container), your feeder copper drops massively. Example: 15 kV 350 kcmil at $19.2k/container for 200 ft**, vs $75k copper at LV. Net can remain lower even after adding four pad-mounts.
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"content": "Someone asked me what it takes to put on a 5MW infra plan so i wrote it up with cost avg.... here ya go world.\n\n1,428 MicroBT ASICs at 3.5 kW each on a raw 5 MW bus. If you budget a realistic PUE 1.05 - 1.10, that’s 1,360–1,300 miners powered concurrently.\n\nMaths: \nRaw count: 5,000 kW / 3.5 kW ≈ 1,428 units.\n\nContainer plan\n\nSpec’d 4 × 1.5 MW containers = 6 MW of rack capacity. Your generation is 5 MW. \n\nOversized here for 80% infra to mitigate heat issues durring summer months. \n\n Run 1.5 MW container at ~1.25 MW per container (even split). a 1.25 MW container 357 asics.\n\nElectrical one-liner (clean and cheap) shouldn't be more that few hundred dollars to electrical engineers office.\n\nBest practice to kill copper costs and voltage drop:\n\n1. Paralleled gens: 2 × 2.5 MW turbines at 480 V into a 480 V generator switchboard, each on a ~3,200 A breaker (2.5 MW/(√3·480·0.95) ≈ 3,165 A).\n\n2. Step-up to MV: 2 × 2.5 MVA 0.48 kV to 4.16 kV transformers (or 13.8 kV). Tie to an MV bus.\n\n3. Distribute MV to pads near each container.\n\n4. Step-down at the edge: 4 × 1.25–1.5 MVA MV to 415Y/240 V pad-mounts, one per container.\n\n5. LV switchboard at each container feeds PDUs.\n\nWhy I recommend this: pulling 7,300 A at 415 V across site is a cable, cost crime. MV distribution fixes that.\n\nMain 480 V board to 2 × 2.5 MVA 480 to 415Y/240 V transformers in parallel → common 415 V board.\nFrom 415 V board to each container:\n\n1.5 MW feeder current ≈ 2,200 A (1.5 MW/(√3·415·0.95)).\n\nExpect 5–6 runs/phase of 500 kcmil Cu or 7–8 runs/phase of 750 kcmil Al per container to stay within ampacity and voltage-drop limits (exact run count depends on length, ambient, grouping, and NEC derates). \n\nTransformer sizing and notes\n\nEdge pad-mounts: 1.25–1.5 MVA, MV primary (4.16 or 13.8 kV), 415Y/240 V secondary, Z ~ 5–6%, ONAN/NEMA 3R, taps ±2×2.5%.\n\nCentral step-up: 0.48 feed to MV at 2.5 MVA each, or buy turbines with MV alternators and skip the step up.\n\nIf staying LV-LV: dry-type 2.5 MVA 480Δ to 415Y/240 exists off the shelf. \n\nSwitchgear and breakers (typical)\n\n480 V generator breakers: 3,200–3,500 A each.\n\n415 V main bus rating: ≥8,000 A if centralized.\n\nContainer feeders: 2,000–2,500 A frame per 1.25–1.5 MW container, adjustable trips set by cable study.\n\nConductor quick math (centralized LV case)\n\nSite-total at 415 V: ~7,300 A (5 MW/(√3·415·0.95)).\n\nPer container: ~2,200 A at 1.5 MW; 1,830 A at 1.25 MW.\n\nFeeder count guide (THHN/XHHW-2, 75–90 °C, in multiple conduits): plan 5–6× 500 kcmil Cu/phase for 1.5 MW over modest distances. Check voltage drop and derates before final. \n\nRough capex ranges (equipment only, excludes site/civils/MEP/labor)\n\nGas turbines 2.5 MW class: equipment-only $700–$1,200/kW at this scale. \n\nTwo units avg $3.5–$6.0 M range pending make/model and package. \n\nCapstone path is modular (C1000S = 1 MW blocks), often priced used/new per unit; multi-MW achieved in parallel. \n\n\nPad-mount transformers 2.5 MVA: $90k–$150k each depending on voltage and options. \n\n1.25–1.5 MW mining containers (shells): wide spread. Air-cooled 20–40 ft units typically $50k–$150k; high-density or hydro options can push higher. \n\nCabling/switchgear: highly distance-dependent. Centralized LV design balloons copper. MV distribution plus edge step-downs usually cuts conductor cost by 40–60% vs long 415 V pulls. (Engineering judgment; validate with your actual runs.)\n\n\nDeliverables you can lift into RFQs\n\nGeneration: 2 × 2.5 MW natural-gas turbines, 480 V alternators, continuous duty, black-start package, utility-grade sync/protection.\n\nTransformers:\n\nOption A(my recommendation): 2 × 2.5 MVA 480→4.16 kV step-up; 4 × 1.25–1.5 MVA 4.16 kV→415Y/240 V pad-mounts at container pads.\n\nOption B (LV-LV): 2 × 2.5 MVA 480→415Y/240 V near gens; 4 × 2,000–2,500 A 415 V feeders to containers.\n\n\nSwitchgear: 480 V gen board with two 3,200 A breakers and tie; MV switchgear with four feeders; or 415 V board with four 2,000–2,500 A feeders.\n\nConductors: Per container feeder sized for 1.25–1.5 MW at 415 V. Plan 5–6 × 500 kcmil Cu/phase (or 7–8 × 750 kcmil Al/phase) for short-to-moderate runs; finalize by NEC 310 ampacity, 250.122 EGC, and voltage-drop calcs. \n\nCOSTS ASSOCIATED NEW VS USED:\nclean parts-only build sheet for 5 MW at 3.5 kW/ASIC. Count = 1,428 ASICs $285,600 at $200 each. Everything else is line-itemed New vs Refurb with assumptions stated.\n\nAssumptions\n\nPower topology: 2× 2.5 MW gens, central 480 to 415/240 step-down (2× 2.5 MVA), then 415 V feeders to 4× containers.\n\nFeeder length placeholder = 200 ft per container. Change L and multiply.\n\nFeeder sizing (415 V) per 1.25–1.5 MW container: 5 parallel runs/phase of 500 kcmil Cu (or 750 kcmil Al) with neutral and EGC in each conduit. That’s 25 conductors/container.\n\nElectrical labor $150/hr. Crane allowance shown. Transport $50k total. Gas hookups $25k.\n\nUnit prices (to calc conductors and options)\n\n500 kcmil Cu THHN: ~$12.5–$17.1/ft. Use $15/ft midpoint. \n\n750 kcmil Al XHHW-2: ~$6.8–$7.7/ft. Use $7.25/ft. \n\n15 kV MV-105, 350 kcmil (for future MV option): ~$32/ft. \n\n2.5 MVA LV-LV 480Δ→415Y/240 (new, NEMA 3R/dry or pad-mount oil): budget $220k–$260k each; use $240k. Example new 2.5 MVA pad-mount pricing shown. Refurb comps in the $20k–$100k band depending on type. \n\n2.5 MW turbines/gens (continuous duty): New $1.3M–$1.8M each (use $1.6M mid); Refurb/used $0.6M–$1.0M (use $0.8M). Comps shown (CAT 2.5 MW new, MTU 2.5 MW new, Jenbacher 2–2.5 MW used). \n\nMining containers 1.5 MW: Used $50k, New $150k. \n\nCrane: allow $25k–$35k total for 2–3 days of 100–175 ton with mobilization.\n\nConductor maths (per container @ 415 V, 200 ft)\n\nCopper option: 25 conductors × 200 ft = 5,000 conductor-ft × $15/ft = $75,000 per container is $300,000 for 4.\n\nAluminum option: 5,000 conductor-ft × $7.25/ft = $36,250 per container is $145,000 for 4. \n(Formula to adjust: Total $ = containers × 25 × length(ft) × unit $/ft.)\n\nLine-item quote (NEW build)\n\n2× 2.5 MW gas turbines/gens, new @ $1,600,000 … $3,200,000. \n\n2× 2.5 MVA 480 step down 415/240 transformers, new @ $240,000 … $480,000. \n\n4× 1.5 MW mining containers, new @ $150,000 … $600,000. \n\n415 V feeders (Cu, as specced) = $300,000 at 200 ft/container. \n\nMain/switchgear \u0026 distribution (480 V + 415 V boards, breakers, protection): $250,000 (allowance, new).\n\nASICs 1,428 @ $200 … $285,600.\n\nElectrical labor allowance 1,200 hrs × $150/hr … $180,000.\nCrane allowance … $30,000. \nTransportation … $50,000.\nGas hookups … $25,000.\n\n\nNEW total ≈ $5,401,000.\n\n\nLine-item quote (REFURB/USED build)\n\n2× 2.5 MW turbines/gens, refurb @ $800,000 … $1,600,000. \n\n2× 2.5 MVA 480→415/240 transformers, refurb @ $80,000 … $160,000. \n\n4× 1.5 MW mining containers, used @ $50,000 … $200,000. \n\n415 V feeders (Al option) ≈ $145,000 at 200 ft/container. \n\nSwitchgear refurb allowance … $120,000.\n\nASICs 1,428 @ $200 … $285,600.\n\nElectrical labor $180,000.\nCrane $30,000. \nTransportation $50,000.\nGas hookups $25,000.\n\n\nREFURB/USED total ≈ $2,796,000.\n\nNotes that save you money\n\nIf you flip to MV distribution (480→4.16/13.8 kV near gens, pad-mounts at each container), your feeder copper drops massively. Example: 15 kV 350 kcmil at $19.2k/container for 200 ft**, vs $75k copper at LV. Net can remain lower even after adding four pad-mounts. ",
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