<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><title>Jeremy [ARCHIVE] wrote</title><author_name>Jeremy [ARCHIVE] (npub1q8…8qwta)</author_name><author_url>https://yabu.me/npub1q86n5vtxkwerzwfqza3hwls8pl8764244464talfqy2vpj0qaz6q38qwta</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://yabu.me</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2021-05-07&#xA;📝 Original message:Proof-of-stake tends towards oligopolistic control, which is antithetical&#xA;to bitcoin.&#xA;&#xA;Proof-of-stake also has some other security issues that make it a bad&#xA;substitute for Proof-of-work with respect to equivocation (reorgs).&#xA;&#xA;Overall you&#39;ll find me *personally* in the camp that it&#39;s OK to explore&#xA;non-PoW means of consensus long term that can keep the network in consensus&#xA;in a more capital efficient manner, but that proof-of-stake is not such a&#xA;substitute. Other Bitcoiners will disagree with this invariably, but if you&#xA;truly have a novel solution for Byzantine Generals, it would be a major&#xA;contribution to not just Bitcoin but the field of computer science as a&#xA;whole and would likely get due consideration.&#xA;&#xA;What&#39;s difficult is that Bitcoin PoW has some very specific properties that&#xA;may or may not be desirable around e.g. fairness that might be difficult to&#xA;ensure in other systems, so there is probably more to the puzzle than just&#xA;consensus.&#xA;--&#xA;@JeremyRubin &lt;https://twitter.com/JeremyRubin&gt;&#xA;&lt;https://twitter.com/JeremyRubin&gt;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 3:50 PM SatoshiSingh via bitcoin-dev &lt;&#xA;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; Hello list,&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I am a lurker here and like many of you I worry about the energy usage of&#xA;&gt; bitcoin mining. I understand a lot mining happens with renewable resources&#xA;&gt; but the impact is still high.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I want to get your opinion on implementing proof of stake for bitcoin&#xA;&gt; mining in future. For now, proof of stake is still untested and not battle&#xA;&gt; tested like proof of work. Though someday it will be.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; In the following years we&#39;ll be seeing proof of stake being implemented.&#xA;&gt; Smaller networks can test PoS which is a luxury bitcoin can&#39;t afford.&#xA;&gt; Here&#39;s how I see this the possibilities:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; 1 - Proof of stake isn&#39;t a good enough security mechanism&#xA;&gt; 2 - Proof of state is a good security mechanism and works as intended&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; IF PoS turns out to be good after battle testing, would you consider&#xA;&gt; implementing it for Bitcoin? I understand this would invoke a lot of&#xA;&gt; controversies and a hard fork that no one likes. But its important enough&#xA;&gt; to consider a hard fork. What are your opinions provided PoS does work?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Love from India.&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&#xA;&gt; https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20210507/bdc3653f/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>