<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><title>ZmnSCPxj [ARCHIVE] wrote</title><author_name>ZmnSCPxj [ARCHIVE] (npub1g5…3ms3l)</author_name><author_url>https://yabu.me/npub1g5zswf6y48f7fy90jf3tlcuwdmjn8znhzaa4vkmtxaeskca8hpss23ms3l</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://yabu.me</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2019-01-02&#xA;📝 Original message:&#xA;Good morning CJP,&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&gt; This, and the rest of your proposal, sounds like a lot of trouble,&#xA;&gt; while it hardly solves anything.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; RM can have its node surrounded by other nodes also controlled by&#xA;&gt; itself. So it is possible that RM controls all nodes that can possibly&#xA;&gt; fulfill the &#39;G&#39; role, and thereby stop any evidence being generated&#xA;&gt; against the RM node. If you then want to build evidence against the G&#xA;&gt; nodes, you end up recursively involving every single Lightning node in&#xA;&gt; trying to solve your problem. Maybe it is possible, but I&#39;d like not to&#xA;&gt; do that. I like to see the exchange function as a higher layer (layer&#xA;&gt; 3) on top of the Lightning layer, and have each layer solve its own&#xA;&gt; problems in a clean and elegant way. I prefer that nodes that aren&#39;t&#xA;&gt; involved in exchanging assets don&#39;t need to deal with its complexities&#xA;&gt; either.&#xA;&#xA;Which is why I later say:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; &gt; Note that since the path from S to RM is selected by RM, though, S must serve as G, and every node in-between that is honestly not a sockpuppet of RM should be prepared to shut down their channels immediately in case of slow response from the next node.&#xA;&#xA;Assuming S is a payee, it has every incentive to follow this protocol.&#xA;&#xA;Of course, now OM needs to know G, and thus knows S, the payee, and now has the power to censor payments.&#xA;Heavy sigh.&#xA;&#xA;Further, if S is not a payee, but is secretly a sockpuppet of F who is setting up an American Call Option, S can simply not forward to RM until much later.&#xA;Heavy sigh.&#xA;&#xA;Regards,&#xA;ZmnSCPxj</html></oembed>