<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><title>Luxas wrote</title><author_name>Luxas (npub16j…733sv)</author_name><author_url>https://yabu.me/npub16jdfqgazrkapk0yrqm9rdxlnys7ck39c7zmdzxtxqlmmpxg04r0sd733sv</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://yabu.me</provider_url><html>Sadly, I have reverted course for the time being and removed the Marmot Protocol for MLS encrypted group chats on #Nymchat.&#xA;&#xA;It appears to be far too experimental than I realized at this time and needs further testing, tuning, etc. A lot of folks couldn&#39;t get the messages to work or some people could publish a keypackage and others not making invites janky. It also seems unreliable for any sort of restore state, which caused the group to become corrupted. It&#39;s also disappointing that only a single admin in the commit can invite/kick members unless all group members are admins.&#xA;&#xA;I need to keep tinkering to see if it&#39;s worth pursuing further, but for the now the battle-tested NIP-17 group chats work beautifully.&#xA;&#xA;They of course, just come with the caveat of possible timing attacks that might infer group member pubkeys and there&#39;s no forward secrecy. However, the message contents of NIP-17 group chats are still e2ee. I just wouldn&#39;t recommend them for absolute mission-critical comms. Otherwise, shitposting with your friends is fine.&#xA;&#xA;https://nymchat.app&#xA;</html></oembed>