<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><title>Peter D. Gray [ARCHIVE] wrote</title><author_name>Peter D. Gray [ARCHIVE] (npub10v…t058y)</author_name><author_url>https://yabu.me/npub10vqyu8x3f0lfttk98xc28ppuyufaz4df8x4aspa9w9xz5z05snzq7t058y</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://yabu.me</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2018-06-21&#xA;📝 Original message:On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 04:32:07PM +0200, Tomas Susanka wrote:&#xA;...&#xA;&gt; First of all, let me thank you for all the hard work you and others have&#xA;&gt; put into this.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; On 21.6.2018 02:39, Achow101 via bitcoin-dev wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt; While I agree that the BIP itself should be revised to reflect these suggestions, I fear that it may be too late. I know of a few other developers who have implemented BIP 174 already but have not yet responded to this email.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; We do realize that this discussion should have happened earlier, however&#xA;&gt; agreeing on a good standard should be the number one priority for all&#xA;&gt; the parties involved.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; The fact that someone already implemented this is indeed unfortunate,&#xA;&gt; but I don&#39;t think we should lower our demands on the standard just&#xA;&gt; because of a bad timing.&#xA;&#xA;We all want a &#34;good&#34; standard but we have that already, IMHO.&#xA;&#xA;What you are really saying is you want a &#34;better&#34; standard, and I&#xA;would argue that&#39;s our enemy right now. It&#39;s just too easy to propose a&#xA;few tweaks, with &#34;wouldn&#39;t it be better if...&#34; &#xA;&#xA;I feel strongly we are entering the &#34;design by committee&#34; territory with BIP174.&#xA;&#xA;I have personally implemented this spec on an embedded micro, as&#xA;the signer and finalizer roles, and written multiple parsers for&#xA;it as well. There is nothing wrong with it, and it perfectly meets&#xA;my needs as a hardware wallet.&#xA;&#xA;So, there is a good proposal already spec&#39;ed and implemented by&#xA;multiple parties. Andrew has been very patiently shepherding the PR&#xA;for over six months already.&#xA;&#xA;PSBT is something we need, and has been missing from the ecosystem&#xA;for a long time. Let&#39;s push this out and start talking about future&#xA;versions after we learn from this one.&#xA;&#xA;---&#xA;Peter D. Gray  ||  Founder, Coinkite  ||  Twitter: @dochex  ||  GPG: A3A31BAD 5A2A5B10&#xA;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;A non-text attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;Name: signature.asc&#xA;Type: application/pgp-signature&#xA;Size: 496 bytes&#xA;Desc: not available&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20180621/8d63430a/attachment.sig&gt;</html></oembed>