<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><title>CJP [ARCHIVE] wrote</title><author_name>CJP [ARCHIVE] (npub13q…cuzdm)</author_name><author_url>https://yabu.me/npub13q863scgpsaanrjhfn7dd4h48lgnupgkcs828arzj4pckrq8hh6s4cuzdm</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://yabu.me</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2019-01-02&#xA;📝 Original message:&#xA;Regarding this subject, I believe I should disclose that my current&#xA;employer, Bitonic, operates an evil, centralized, trusted exchange, and&#xA;that the ideas discussed in this thread may be related to concepts that&#xA;are actually being developed by my employer.&#xA;&#xA;So, am I biased? Who knows? Does it matter? Can you trust me? Maybe,&#xA;but I guess you shouldn&#39;t anyway. In my view, words should be&#xA;convincing or unconvincing regardless of who speaks them. &#xA;&#xA;CJP&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;CJP schreef op vr 28-12-2018 om 09:27 [+0100]:&#xA;&gt; Hi ZmnSCPxj,&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; I think we&#39;ve already addressed this issue before:&#xA;&gt; https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2018-May/00&#xA;&gt; 12&#xA;&gt; 92.html&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; and especially this proposal of me:&#xA;&gt; https://bitonic.nl/public/slowdown_prevention.pdf&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; It&#39;s not completely trustless, but I tend to see trustlessness in a&#xA;&gt; very pragmatic sense anyway. Trust creates a risk, but if the&#xA;&gt; alternative trustless system is very impractical, and the risk is&#xA;&gt; small&#xA;&gt; enough, the benefits might simply be worth the risks. Note that this&#xA;&gt; is&#xA;&gt; a completely subjective trade-off, so it is only acceptable on an&#xA;&gt; individual, voluntary basis.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; CJP&#xA;&gt;</html></oembed>