<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><title>Lawrence Deacon [ARCHIVE] wrote</title><author_name>Lawrence Deacon [ARCHIVE] (npub1vy…yzn0r)</author_name><author_url>https://yabu.me/npub1vyexeqgyhtssdgevhfedc0wf00s6wymrge0x7gn2w6nfyzgckrtqzyzn0r</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://yabu.me</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2019-01-03&#xA;📝 Original message:&#xA;Do cross-asset lightning nodes do not offer premium-free American call options?&#xA;=============================================================&#xA;I would argue that cross-asset lightning nodes do not offer premium-free American call options for the following reasons.&#xA;&#xA;Say I wanted to set up to purchase 1 WJT for P bitcoins at time t &lt; T where t is the time I close the contract and T is the expiry time.&#xA;&#xA;In order to set up the contract I must pay P bitcoins to the contract, incurring an opportunity cost of x_i1. Assuming we set up the contract at time t_0=0, this will be equivalent to the money I could have earned by loaning the currency at interest during the period t. &#xA;&#xA;I must also pay the issuer of the contract a premium x_p (in the case where I am both recipient and issuer, see further down).&#xA;&#xA;If S(t) is the spot price at time t and K = S(t) - P then the payoff for me is as follows:&#xA;&#xA;S(t) &gt; P:        K  - x_p  -  x_i1 &#xA;S(t) &lt; P:        -x_i1 - x_p&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;If x_i2 is the opportunity cost of paying 1 WJT to the contract for time t then the payoff for the other party (issuer) is as follows:&#xA;&#xA;S(t) &gt; P:        -K + x_p - x_i2&#x9;&#xA;S(t) &lt; P:         x_p  - x_i2&#xA;&#xA;If x_p = 0 then the issuer is guaranteed a loss. Therefore no rational contract issuer will issue an American call option for free.&#xA;&#xA;In the case where I am both recipient and issuer of the contract, to get the payoff we add the above payoffs:&#xA;&#xA;S(t) &gt; P:         -x_i1 - x_i2&#xA;S(t) &lt; P:         -x_i1 - x_i2&#xA;&#xA;This is a guaranteed loss.&#xA;&#xA;Conclusion&#xA;========&#xA;Lightning nodes do not offer premium-free American call options because whether or not the contract and issuer are the same person, setting up a premium free American call option using a HTLC guarantees a loss for one or both parties. Even if the opportunity costs were 0, then setting up a contract with myself would have a guaranteed 0 payoff.&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/attachments/20190103/cc6cad95/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>