<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><title>Zac Greenwood [ARCHIVE] wrote</title><author_name>Zac Greenwood [ARCHIVE] (npub1gy…dvff7)</author_name><author_url>https://yabu.me/npub1gymmksd9tgwzc5w33umlx08sc2ggys3v2cucmpvl7yy9720wh49s8dvff7</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://yabu.me</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2021-05-18&#xA;📝 Original message:Hi ZmnSCPxj,&#xA;&#xA;Please note that I am not suggesting VDFs as a means to save energy, but&#xA;solely as a means to make the time between blocks more constant.&#xA;&#xA;Zac&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;On Tue, 18 May 2021 at 12:42, ZmnSCPxj &lt;ZmnSCPxj at protonmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; Good morning Zac,&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; VDFs might enable more constant block times, for instance by having a&#xA;&gt; two-step PoW:&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; 1. Use a VDF that takes say 9 minutes to resolve (VDF being subject to&#xA;&gt; difficulty adjustments similar to the as-is). As per the property of VDFs,&#xA;&gt; miners are able show proof of work.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; 2. Use current PoW mechanism with lower difficulty so finding a block&#xA;&gt; takes 1 minute on average, again subject to as-is difficulty adjustments.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; As a result, variation in block times will be greatly reduced.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; As I understand it, another weakness of VDFs is that they are not&#xA;&gt; inherently progress-free (their sequential nature prevents that; they are&#xA;&gt; inherently progress-requiring).&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Thus, a miner which focuses on improving the amount of energy that it can&#xA;&gt; pump into the VDF circuitry (by overclocking and freezing the circuitry),&#xA;&gt; could potentially get into a winner-takes-all situation, possibly leading&#xA;&gt; to even *worse* competition and even *more* energy consumption.&#xA;&gt; After all, if you can start mining 0.1s faster than the competition, that&#xA;&gt; is a 0.1s advantage where *only you* can mine *in the entire world*.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Regards,&#xA;&gt; ZmnSCPxj&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20210518/abd8b876/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>