<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><title>t4es5ter5 wrote</title><author_name>t4es5ter5 (npub1rx…ana9d)</author_name><author_url>https://yabu.me/npub1rxdgaa26crjvsrxsxn90lcmsyujz2k37f5d2a5fty3w9z4hzxznqvana9d</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://yabu.me</provider_url><html>I have decide to stop with my lightning node.&#xA;Too risky.&#xA;&#xA;Also got another force close of WalletOfSatoshi&#xA;&#xA;https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2023-October/022032.html&#xA;https://stacker.news/items/288995&#xA;&#xA;I think this new class of replacement cycling attacks puts lightning in a&#xA;very perilous position, where only a sustainable fix can happen at the&#xA;base-layer, e.g adding a memory-intensive history of all-seen transactions&#xA;or some consensus upgrade. Deployed mitigations are worth something in face&#xA;of simple attacks, though I don&#39;t think they&#39;re stopping advanced attackers&#xA;as said in the first full disclosure mail.&#xA;&#xA;Those types of changes are the ones necessitating the utmost transparency&#xA;and buy-in of the community as a whole, as we&#39;re altering the full-nodes&#xA;processing requirements or the security architecture of the decentralized&#xA;bitcoin ecosystem in its integrality.&#xA;&#xA;On the other hand fully explaining why such changes would be warranted for&#xA;the sake of lightning and for designing them well, we might need to lay out&#xA;in complete state practical and critical attacks on a ~5 355 public BTC&#xA;ecosystem.&#xA;&#xA;Hard dilemma.&#xA;&#xA;There might be a lesson in terms of bitcoin protocol deployment, we might&#xA;have to get them right at first try. Little second chance to fix them in&#xA;flight.&#xA;&#xA;I&#39;ll be silent on those issues on public mailing lists until the week of&#xA;the 30 oct. Enough material has been published and other experts are&#xA;available. Then I&#39;ll be back focusing more on bitcoin core.&#xA;&#xA;Best,&#xA;Antoine</html></oembed>