{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","title":"CJP [ARCHIVE] wrote","author_name":"CJP [ARCHIVE] (npub13q…cuzdm)","author_url":"https://yabu.me/npub13q863scgpsaanrjhfn7dd4h48lgnupgkcs828arzj4pckrq8hh6s4cuzdm","provider_name":"njump","provider_url":"https://yabu.me","html":"📅 Original date posted:2019-01-02\n📝 Original message:\nRegarding this subject, I believe I should disclose that my current\nemployer, Bitonic, operates an evil, centralized, trusted exchange, and\nthat the ideas discussed in this thread may be related to concepts that\nare actually being developed by my employer.\n\nSo, am I biased? Who knows? Does it matter? Can you trust me? Maybe,\nbut I guess you shouldn't anyway. In my view, words should be\nconvincing or unconvincing regardless of who speaks them. \n\nCJP\n\n\nCJP schreef op vr 28-12-2018 om 09:27 [+0100]:\n\u003e Hi ZmnSCPxj,\n\u003e \n\u003e I think we've already addressed this issue before:\n\u003e https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2018-May/00\n\u003e 12\n\u003e 92.html\n\u003e \n\u003e and especially this proposal of me:\n\u003e https://bitonic.nl/public/slowdown_prevention.pdf\n\u003e \n\u003e It's not completely trustless, but I tend to see trustlessness in a\n\u003e very pragmatic sense anyway. Trust creates a risk, but if the\n\u003e alternative trustless system is very impractical, and the risk is\n\u003e small\n\u003e enough, the benefits might simply be worth the risks. Note that this\n\u003e is\n\u003e a completely subjective trade-off, so it is only acceptable on an\n\u003e individual, voluntary basis.\n\u003e \n\u003e CJP\n\u003e"}