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    <name>Corné Plooy [ARCHIVE]</name>
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      <title type="html">📅 Original date posted:2018-11-29 📝 Original message: Hi, ...</title>
    
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqsgv4dnr8jsvuf478wpunm29h4s4rvwtexqnd0lenlfvxeu4qlynss5l0e5s&#39;&gt;nevent1q…0e5s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;📅 Original date posted:2018-11-29&lt;br/&gt;📝 Original message:&lt;br/&gt;Hi,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Is there a reason why we have HMACs in Sphinx? What could go wrong if we&lt;br/&gt;didn&amp;#39;t?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A receiving node doesn&amp;#39;t know anyway what the origin node is; I don&amp;#39;t&lt;br/&gt;see any attack mode where an attacker wouldn&amp;#39;t be able to generate a&lt;br/&gt;valid HMAC.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A receiving node only knows which peer sent it a Sphinx packet;&lt;br/&gt;verification that this peer really sent this Sphinx packet is (I think)&lt;br/&gt;already done on a lower protocol layer.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;AFAICS, The only real use case of the HMAC value is the special case of&lt;br/&gt;a 0-valued HMAC, indicating the end of the route. But that&amp;#39;s just silly:&lt;br/&gt;it&amp;#39;s essentially a boolean, not any kind of cryptographic verification.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;CJP
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