2024-09-05T04:50:25Z https://yabu.me Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian: https://yabu.me/npub1lxcygzft450wuzz3kh9xg7vnm25fsd668wgse0u334r65n8u9yksqzhll9 https://cache.treehouse.systems/accounts/avatars/108/081/792/940/535/069/original/9acb758fe07e2c7f.png https://cache.treehouse.systems/accounts/avatars/108/081/792/940/535/069/original/9acb758fe07e2c7f.png https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsfap6vpkv2nfjd38tm9h7nmy27gkf9uckyqrnf5uqd6ykhak3pmrszyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6j2e54w In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqst6zc8ra4cj7zd6rxz554udecd8h2dwgvyfavgxj5smq72dfhkpcqwgz75j'>nevent1q…z75j</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>if it were about license, FreeBSD is literally right there. not to mention that fuschia and genode are both non-copyleft. 2024-09-05T08:29:58Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsr5984995nlnulj93efd78ku5qg0rnexs9q3hz8xptvxq3qkz83lgzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6fg6gmn In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsp4s7kxfynwj0f8f3mmzmz9w297dyxhhgjahzlsqx8e22c0hj5hzq48rn0r'>nevent1q…rn0r</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>like there are already operating systems that compete with Linux solely on the basis of improved reliability. genode and fuschia are real world examples that are deployed in production today. there is also GNU Hurd, and software reliability is one of the main reasons why people are still hacking on it.<br/><br/>we should honestly be ditching the Unix model anyway and treat the Unix system programming interfaces as legacy to be replaced with interfaces built around object capabilities (like fuschia has done at scale, and the Hurd as well). 2024-09-05T08:14:54Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsp4s7kxfynwj0f8f3mmzmz9w297dyxhhgjahzlsqx8e22c0hj5hzqzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6tpfx83 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsf3uxah5aejhxjnzxcad3sl2n6clt46fp78q4exnflyyzncstfs8g85tchs'>nevent1q…tchs</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>it is just reality. in the 90s, everyone said 386BSD was going to be the next big thing and then BSDi bought 1-800-ITS-UNIX.<br/><br/>nothing about my statement says “use rust or else” also. i said that if the attitude of the Linux community (of which i am a contributing member) is to eschew innovation which will help to make Linux a more reliable kernel, then those focused on advancing software reliability will move onto other projects. this naturally includes competition with Linux.<br/><br/>you likely interact with thousands of lines of C i have written on a daily basis. if i were to write that code today maybe i would use Rust, but it’s about engineering, not ideology. 2024-09-05T08:10:47Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsyj08kj7utxw6jsfvn05jvaym5wgv8unl9xnzfwy3f7qkvn930v2czyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6l9lkty when you design for security, you tend to also get reliability as a consequence 2024-09-05T05:49:37Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqszy0x9x7cukzk2zxj86pr2xncwjpn28nu3x7s5lr5g9hu8096a3xgzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6945zsl In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsx8h79p7e053zka89w2a0qq4r556cqwcpu89sz36s4yzkstra9khg4pdmtc'>nevent1q…dmtc</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>rust can clearly bring a lot of value to the kernel in terms of improved robustness, and if the linux kernel community is unwilling to accept new tools to improve robustness, then linux will be replaced with a kernel that will 2024-09-05T05:46:39Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs00mgkcd8njnamm96t53v7r0yst79z6cq0w0k4l7845k28f6kydfszyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j60ml305 unix has a built in mansplaining function, you can just type man &lt;topic&gt; and it will mansplain &lt;topic&gt; to you 2024-08-31T07:39:16Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsyg05hnf0xgjfwruq9cvkarln7qxq2862m0jd0fml8lw5cydlk7qqzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6c9vvsv the report function is not for “this post made me mad because i was insulted” thanks 2024-08-28T17:48:47Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs2m8fd6ddp8ua2qr5llmlhu4d7643aj7uj680k5ln8mjpxyl0myuczyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j62ex5ug In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsvwvyl30ffzegncnyr70rstf3ttfhumt8yzfs8ae7f54vfrusup2gm0w3ef'>nevent1q…w3ef</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>i left telegram when durov started pandering to nazis, i hope telegram bans more people so furries will quit using it 2024-08-21T05:35:05Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsyh42ynkukc788rfwaqd8ff3k2e6t4zzlk9dl4grcvxa5vph5mvrszyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6y6f8fs In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsgz9aq3hrkq0vhmsv93x6suef8hyxdf52sqsvz0khv0ahcchxxr7g748q58'>nevent1q…8q58</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>none of the above. the beginning of the land before time when littlefoot looses his parents 2024-08-17T04:23:12Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsxqxzrd7wcpyqj9379fmwm5l32u72qhxskz7kxcdm3rewm77vka9gzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j695neef In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs9wxgaek07gu2suhwn2k8yp0lc2qpd07kd90p924tjqrx20q6sy8g8nluqh'>nevent1q…luqh</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>yes 2024-08-17T02:07:34Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs83sgawecp8alpsertfhccg93ru7vkk45hthf2yz7k6md2sr2h9ngzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6duxs85 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswq7rpfy8588t7pswwn294vtyaguh6sz072jdy7p3zx00vcff26ag970stt'>nevent1q…0stt</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>actually i have no idea what microsoft defender for cloud actually does 2024-08-14T19:17:50Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqswq7rpfy8588t7pswwn294vtyaguh6sz072jdy7p3zx00vcff26agzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j64f20yl In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsdt29xgrz05gc2cvp7f4kapmwdfjn680psaennl2m42aqsm6hekpcftzpcz'>nevent1q…zpcz</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>yo dawg we heard u like antivirus so we put antivirus in your cloud subscription 2024-08-14T19:17:15Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsdt29xgrz05gc2cvp7f4kapmwdfjn680psaennl2m42aqsm6hekpczyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j65vnsrs big oof<br/> <img src="https://cache.treehouse.systems/media_attachments/files/112/961/976/939/638/532/original/c86f1d863bfe2514.png"> <br/> 2024-08-14T19:16:41Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqswdvldar2z09h6utyu33m5c8quc0gg7zv6cz5f2umk8v76ryf0f0qzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6zg5sc4 hmm, this musl-perf thing effectively makes musl LGPL, but they don&#39;t supply the source for the glibc string functions they borrowed. 2024-08-12T22:18:44Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs9y8gxj40sam2m9susajsv78wtj5kd4r2v28zgjxqea85hfu0angszyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6v7rntu &#34;generate OpenRC services on the fly from systemd units&#34; and other commit messages written by the deranged 2024-08-12T20:58:46Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs2pu3dx9f66rrsws4zm5cy0cyhgy49r2nvuvnlqupr4clzgsxse2czyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6pu83u8 are you allowed to talk about how DEFCON stiffed an indie engineering firm on defcon.social? 2024-08-12T20:13:08Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsxkem7tk95t5kqvgnv5m93k96xmdmajwxgch5xjkucq749um2mucqzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6s94u6s trade offer:<br/><br/>the #alpinelinux TSC approves my service-manager virtual and service-manager-none proposal<br/><br/>you get: simplified alpine base images and the ability to run any service manager you wish (including none) without having to recreate alpine-base from first principles 2024-08-12T17:36:39Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsfe6n50wn4epg0g8fjvxk36ls0kxgn98psss4qjzxvztpe0nm68qqzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6u867ff In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2qm9yu8zm44taq5hx7arqrpwtt30zd8l3ekctq33dl08f9zpgj5qewgwpf'>nevent1q…gwpf</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>idk man i think advocating violent overthrow of a democratic government should be against your CoC 2024-08-09T21:34:38Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsf2sst80trenpyctnujt6pkj5nuzpgkdc7h3g07elzusmjewgd8eqzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6elfhg7 i am putting together a fortunes database for alpine tips. send me your favorites!<br/><br/>#alpine #alpinelinux #pmos #postmarketos 2024-08-08T22:58:49Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsy282a0e6cntr7s9r9nrsz9v5xh3ucvr4shdexwxge2xy600ghy8qzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6ewx8ez i love using my <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1vnuxr820pvj8t35tfgejeylj44ystqwr8h5zret2z6gkqwwdrdtqmw8mqn" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>postmarketOS (old account)</span> (<span class="italic">npub1vnu…8mqn</span>)</a></span> flavored <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1cmlp6xnny9sr4a9sjk4946z7eh7f86h9ca75c797d802pq0w8grsmucwhf" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Alpine Linux :alpine:</span> (<span class="italic">npub1cml…cwhf</span>)</a></span> thinkpad x13s just as much as my macbook air which dual-boots Fedora Asahi and macOS.<br/><br/>actually, i love it more, because it really feels like a hacker&#39;s machine.<br/><br/>the mac is nice and all, and an M2 is certainly more powerful than the cortex-x1 cores in the x13s, don&#39;t get me wrong, but i honestly like the x13s better.<br/><br/>KDE 6 really has won me back. 2024-08-08T07:11:49Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsxl28vz3myl50pnm2rl5f2sx9wqk9fq2cw2hmj5qq5evhduv7l6ygzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6kf5l28 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs8t52h3fmtk7kd04vxn5gdjcvkthkxv6uce8c4jy277fud346sjugl9pdxr'>nevent1q…pdxr</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>source? 2024-08-06T23:36:20Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqstac96tp8su52zzsmwae5z93az2g7nzqsd2j5n2hnxyy8x75axp7szyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j685xppq #apk3 is likely to land in Alpine 3.21 finally, but we will continue to use the APKv2 format for now because we need to study what internal tools needs to be updated to use ADB. 2024-08-06T23:35:09Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs9exwyhxusz9mglgsgum7lpsn8lrjxpvw7qwz7u49ky22dcz30waczyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6ffe537 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2aa8yvsxyukjy72rn3yrgzmcdyq7mz8tvxejuwacp6zeu33327kcpf795d'>nevent1q…795d</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>i suspect you&#39;ll continue to be waiting, sadly 2024-08-06T17:36:43Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs0ml96egue3z8mz8nlhf5j4jgvramg96fqdv6ata3vhnntfxcpesqzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6ayc9nu In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs8dml22ug8q7fkasq3v4ujtfrleqxcevan7c3ev9kgd2urqg93kwgqfs9cw'>nevent1q…s9cw</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>i like the physical keyboard, i dislike the e-ink display 2024-08-06T17:28:34Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsx82fdfry9d3az4zdutpsw3phduvfchkw0s74t4uhgqqv49t7xpcqzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j63gjkhn finally experiencing the future of editing text on mobile devices thanks to <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1vnuxr820pvj8t35tfgejeylj44ystqwr8h5zret2z6gkqwwdrdtqmw8mqn" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>postmarketOS (old account)</span> (<span class="italic">npub1vnu…8mqn</span>)</a></span><br/> <img src="https://cache.treehouse.systems/media_attachments/files/112/905/212/989/501/465/original/5278d6d36b9849ea.jpg"> <br/> 2024-08-04T18:40:47Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsplqtwhxd2fhg7dqgsexhw40kae8yq8vszclylc63swv375ax03pszyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6aw4cjk Nix may solve all the problems of computing but it didn’t solve the problem of “getting paid” which is why I made Wolfi 2024-08-04T16:41:53Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsrhhsmmfqyjz4r9dper454cuhzysg08caly972qxu35e796twpkggzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6uje6zg In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2qdcn72jdz3cg2vnwrj2altgzc6q95x0der2tmgzlks43fgkze3sx96j78'>nevent1q…6j78</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>yep it&#39;s a core i7-3600 series 2024-08-04T02:17:57Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs03yzemyr652mtqff4fh6399qw6xgrfd9htr0vzx9rfdlz4kyty4gzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j665xx26 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqszsw6cusrg3c5myjczzkyne924tgk6uk8rgvsp4nld03qcscxx5fct8976e'>nevent1q…976e</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>idk which model it is but it&#39;s an x86 macbook pro 2024-08-04T02:14:50Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs2zpn9rcczt74h07wc87dwrr9z84w4jxcl8ghn358h6maeden9nhszyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j67dqls8 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsf08dpqu6rz0azqqnffkafcjzvmmrddgvgvuttk2jj6e38ulpw00cvalqe6'>nevent1q…lqe6</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>however, if you keep jiggling it, it eventually gets as large as the entire screen, so i guess there is still some work to be done 2024-08-04T02:08:02Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsf08dpqu6rz0azqqnffkafcjzvmmrddgvgvuttk2jj6e38ulpw00czyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j620jws9 oh, cool, you can jiggle the mouse pointer on KDE now and it will make it larger just like on macOS 2024-08-04T02:07:12Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsr0ztayunxm3pw6hdjhrc0hct9j85xlqz7607fzf6rs6psn8lxgeszyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j679w0du In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsq8l4zefpt8q5cpj8edquhpugcg0fe9v5dfxghrvwkkpnpcpz5g9sfst48s'>nevent1q…t48s</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>i found one at harbor freight 2024-08-03T21:55:10Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsgnszpkv7nx3zkzdvcaxatq3z6k596pfekc6mmm9wqgcdqgn2lq2qzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j69w06nh where would one buy a pentalobe screwdriver in #pdx, preferably within walking distance of PSU 2024-08-03T21:06:13Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsrndenqdzf6ngnewwge6tn87pg53q3u47zxf4cumlewywdm9re38czyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6a2qp5w local media: 1tb<br/><br/>remote media: 15tb<br/><br/>link previews from 2022: 17tb<br/><br/>some mastodon dev help me budget this i keep running out of disk space every 6 months 2024-08-03T18:49:29Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsdv2pjyj9fqcf89lfg23632qfla0cvn4tfluc42dz8n6kmv044tlgzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6sg3t4z In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsztvjmrr5d6hcdz6q5m2xl0aq0p0qsnzpmzgqn4wm6e8rkvl6u7kctx73ms'>nevent1q…73ms</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>in this case, i was talking about defederation due to social friction, which happens a *lot* here, and if you&#39;re unwilling to acknowledge that, then my thread probably won&#39;t be helpful to you.<br/><br/>obviously it is a different case for trolls. 2024-08-03T02:48:30Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs8jc5yszzjuf9jh6z4t9nfdlwywt27vtt4vczj0gk0yg8c3dtea4czyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j65ufrv3 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs0y2cqhhqwtj4h57ujqg4nvktqh6j0m59x4u4688yyy78z9zttjucv9muhr'>nevent1q…muhr</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>one last thing. people grow up and much of the time they recognize that their past behavior was unacceptable.<br/><br/>so being open minded and giving people a chance if they show evidence of personal growth is essential.<br/><br/>you want to *reward* an evolution toward good behavior.<br/><br/>because what ultimately matters is *now*. 2024-08-03T02:46:33Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs0y2cqhhqwtj4h57ujqg4nvktqh6j0m59x4u4688yyy78z9zttjuczyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6adpz73 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2qx5ltvskzs4qantpuegnrjsgvcz50s7r4khzkarvvaxu0nuhmngg03s2a'>nevent1q…3s2a</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>the tl;dr basically is:<br/><br/>1. onboard as many moderators as possible, but make sure you actually trust them first.<br/><br/>2. ensure that you have 24x7 moderation coverage, because the network needs moderation 24x7.<br/><br/>3. as pertains to the greater fediverse: stay out of other people&#39;s disputes, lest you get caught up in it and defederated as a result. it&#39;s not about you, and your input most likely won&#39;t bring any value anyway.<br/><br/>4. automation is your friend and acts as a force multiplier for your team, both in terms of enabling them to do more, and also protecting them from burnout caused by dealing with crapflood spam.<br/><br/>5. it&#39;s not about punishing, and it&#39;s not about you. it&#39;s about keeping the community in a state of productive flow, and ensuring community members are having a good time.<br/><br/>6. don&#39;t take on high profile users unless you know you can support them. sometimes this comes in the form of labor, but sometimes it comes in the form of recruiting high profile users as moderators so they can just deal with whatever doesn&#39;t get caught by automation.<br/><br/>7. put something in between mastodon&#39;s activitypub inboxes and the internet, that way you can quickly respond to crapfloods and eventually automate those responses. in other words, firewalls are still good and useful in 2024. 2024-08-03T02:40:51Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs2qx5ltvskzs4qantpuegnrjsgvcz50s7r4khzkarvvaxu0nuhmngzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j69dunym In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswvgj0n4ea92vjwq49ghn0ghn8dv9lpz728x9ra4havz4a9v5vlpg8nvpg7'>nevent1q…vpg7</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>finally, when we do onboard additional moderators (which i guess we will probably be doing soon, given that we&#39;ve slipped to a 1:40 ratio), we usually tell the new moderators to not act directly on incidents until they&#39;ve observed our processes for a while and have gotten into the swing of things.<br/><br/>one thing <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1fd2lu838dkm58sm2gh5an5acrwd7gz2eyl059nt8fu4jk798k7qqlrf2f9" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Darius Kazemi</span> (<span class="italic">npub1fd2…f2f9</span>)</a></span> proposes is an onboarding buddy system. this might be something we look into implementing with the next batch of moderators we bring on board.<br/><br/>if you onboard a moderator and just set them loose, they are doomed to failure. and, given the nature of the fediverse, that failure could potentially be catastrophic (e.g. mass defederation).<br/><br/>nobody wants to be the person who ruined the instance. 2024-08-03T02:31:16Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqswvgj0n4ea92vjwq49ghn0ghn8dv9lpz728x9ra4havz4a9v5vlpgzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6g3y5pj In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqszh3vc8qg84m3e0l22et9cmvpun08perk9nlfu7pc0ynw3nvnaxgsgljwjm'>nevent1q…jwjm</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>the other key thing to realize about moderation and process is that playbooks are essential.<br/><br/>in treehouse, we create a new channel for every notable moderation incident (e.g. it&#39;s not spam), and then do a retrospective once the incident is resolved.<br/><br/>this allows our staff to build up these mental playbooks so that dealing with future incidents of that type becomes second nature.<br/><br/>we also archive every channel we create so that we can go back and look at previous moderation incidents if we don&#39;t personally know what to do about a situation.<br/><br/>this is highly valuable moderation data to retain, because it allows for training up additional moderation staff. 2024-08-03T02:25:07Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqszh3vc8qg84m3e0l22et9cmvpun08perk9nlfu7pc0ynw3nvnaxgszyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j60reatz In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsv662nwa7naclwd6z6kpt9eqj8xvzc3jfgqyp5fz0xneulpswu08g6jm5ss'>nevent1q…m5ss</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>moderation is not necessarily about whacking things with a big stick either.<br/><br/>most of the time, simply taking a user aside and saying &#34;can we not?&#34; is enough to get the behavior to stop.<br/><br/>freenode (RIP) referred to this approach as catalysing. libera.chat has an entire playbook on it: <a href="https://libera.chat/guides/catalyst">https://libera.chat/guides/catalyst</a><br/><br/>the goal of moderation is to keep productive conversation flowing and the temperature low. 2024-08-03T02:21:28Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsv662nwa7naclwd6z6kpt9eqj8xvzc3jfgqyp5fz0xneulpswu08gzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j67gdnkd In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsv45vgk6y4g0xrkt574fwnfghx4cx4xm09rwn6am7cn7yn9w7cu0qyt69l3'>nevent1q…69l3</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>it is also important to realize that moderation is effectively a form of &#34;community policing&#34;.<br/><br/>this means that it will only work if the folks doing the moderation are respected members of the community.<br/><br/>this means that you shouldn&#39;t bring in outsiders to do your moderation -- they need social capital inside the community in order to be effective. 2024-08-03T02:16:10Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsv45vgk6y4g0xrkt574fwnfghx4cx4xm09rwn6am7cn7yn9w7cu0qzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6mpnft2 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs28d7kjlgfvj3fz895d8sxl9s9x8yvhgg2w9p7krfazx99rtse4dq2jynhe'>nevent1q…ynhe</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>in the case of treehouse, we have 14 active moderators for a community of 560 active users.<br/><br/>this gives us a ratio of about 1 to 40. at one point in time, we had a ratio of about 1 to 15. something around this ballpark is probably the golden ratio.<br/><br/>if you have automation to deal with trivial abuse such as crapflooding, then you need less moderators. 2024-08-03T02:14:00Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs28d7kjlgfvj3fz895d8sxl9s9x8yvhgg2w9p7krfazx99rtse4dqzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6t0y29v In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsdfds088kxexsm4rllyw7hpc2yv5yncvd5pstv7cdjwafglt5g79g6lmpgv'>nevent1q…mpgv</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>now, there is the issue of managing moderation burnout.<br/><br/>the solution here is: recruit more moderators.<br/><br/>in the case of treehouse, we have taken inspiration from the days of running EFnet IRC channels, and the War of 1812: if somebody looks like they know what they&#39;re doing, they&#39;re pressganged into service.<br/><br/>however, you can&#39;t just pressgang someone into 24x7 service as a moderator.<br/><br/>so building a system where carrying the pager is load balanced is essential. community members should not have to be expected to wear the mod hat all of the time.<br/><br/>there are a few options here. you can formally set schedules, or you can just set the community norm that participation in moderation is best-effort.<br/><br/>it would be cool if mastodon integrated with a tool like pagerduty directly, for example.<br/><br/>internally, we have some hackish tools that enable and disable moderation alerts to allow folks to take breaks as needed.<br/><br/>coverage -- to allow rapid response to incidents -- is also essential. in treehouse, we have built up a robust enough moderation team that there will basically always be somebody around, no matter what time it is.<br/><br/>this is because we followed the IRC model of building a mod team -- the more, the merrier.<br/><br/>but you can&#39;t just make every user a mod and hope that works. finding the right balance is very much dependent on the makeup of your community. 2024-08-03T02:11:53Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsdfds088kxexsm4rllyw7hpc2yv5yncvd5pstv7cdjwafglt5g79gzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j60tlrlg In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsf87mu3amjrglnt4dtk7cdum9kfyp5wmnl70u4gy3smmjvtffxppqkhtyy2'>nevent1q…tyy2</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>the last thing i will say about politics is -- stay in your own lane.<br/><br/>nothing of value will ever be gained by inserting yourself into somebody else&#39;s dispute.<br/><br/>the few times that we have ever done this, we won a stupid prize -- defederation from one or more instances.<br/><br/>it&#39;s just not worth it, and it&#39;s not your business anyway. 2024-08-03T02:03:48Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsf87mu3amjrglnt4dtk7cdum9kfyp5wmnl70u4gy3smmjvtffxppqzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j66qm8t6 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs0xydn489rvz25e7uaawrngf0zvg8vwaxgfp7sqv0xh68unl6dn6q67r2ps'>nevent1q…r2ps</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>the larger fediverse is best seen as &#34;bonus content.&#34;<br/><br/>it&#39;s great that you have access to it, but your community should be able to stand on its own merit.<br/><br/>if it can&#39;t, then why are you doing this? 2024-08-03T02:02:29Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs0xydn489rvz25e7uaawrngf0zvg8vwaxgfp7sqv0xh68unl6dn6qzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j66dam5j In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsgqz3lhpncn2d7v65jnhqc0fl5yxux6e8dnjzzvpaf7kcefuypr4qd77n50'>nevent1q…7n50</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>when it comes to *being* defederated, it isn&#39;t the end of the world.<br/><br/>some people have a different style toward how they want to run their space. although they may see their defederation of *you* as a value judgement, it probably isn&#39;t in reality: they probably just find the friction annoying.<br/><br/>what we&#39;ve learned is when staff are seen as brooding about being defederated from an instance, it results in further defederations.<br/><br/>learning to not feed into this is essential. you must, as an instance admin, maintain command of a situation, and that involves checking your own shit.<br/><br/>there are a number of instances that have defederated treehouse. it doesn&#39;t matter.<br/><br/>focus on *your* community. users sign up for *your* community because they want to be part of *your* community.<br/><br/>if they wanted to be part of the *other* side of the netsplit, they can sign up for an account on that side of the netsplit.<br/><br/>yes, this doesn&#39;t feel good, but ultimately not feeding negativity is key to avoiding getting burned out over &#34;fediverse politics.&#34; 2024-08-03T01:59:49Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsgqz3lhpncn2d7v65jnhqc0fl5yxux6e8dnjzzvpaf7kcefuypr4qzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j658lp67 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsft9sm4p8y80fr0rpm6k948je5texvxk4f5t0w25x24w3a0tz7eagukzzpn'>nevent1q…zzpn</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>the next area is obvious: limit vs defederation<br/><br/>in general, we just defederate instances that become sources of annoyance to us.<br/><br/>in some cases we will limit an instance, such as mastodon.social, in response to those instances being a source of spam, but this is pretty rare, because almost all of the instances we do instance-level blocking against are run by trolls who think flooding people with nazi shit is somehow new and novel.<br/><br/>of course, when you&#39;ve been moderating IRC servers for 20 years, none of this shit is new or novel. it&#39;s just boring. and so we defederate it. 2024-08-03T01:54:52Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsft9sm4p8y80fr0rpm6k948je5texvxk4f5t0w25x24w3a0tz7eagzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j69qyrwg In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs9zvqjlagsl29aseqxgmel7wr0esj34802hnme6qvdzqwf2tck9wsmxd8j9'>nevent1q…d8j9</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>in the case of treehouse specifically, the majority of the treehouse staff have prior experience managing and moderating IRC networks. this, of course, gives us a good understanding of tactics that can be used to mitigate crapfloods.<br/><br/>basically everything that applies to mitigating IRC abuse applies to mitigating fediverse abuse. bucketing and other basic trend analysis techniques provide sufficient signal quality to do automated moderation against. 2024-08-03T01:50:45Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs9zvqjlagsl29aseqxgmel7wr0esj34802hnme6qvdzqwf2tck9wszyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6tg5dv4 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqszhu9nfcwzrf4qamllxm3rv56s489uk8d7jqkga8m47y5n7xmdylcqxnr3h'>nevent1q…nr3h</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>when folks complain about getting crapflooded -- their complaints are real.<br/><br/>as has recently been highlighted -- in the case of BIPOC, these crapflooding trolls tend to flood users with racial slurs or similar.<br/><br/>in the case of non-BIPOC, these crapflooding trolls tend to use other angles of cheap low-effort insults in their crapfloods.<br/><br/>but crapfloods cause users to have a bad experience, regardless of what the flavor is.<br/><br/>we have built custom tooling to deal with various styles of crapflooding attack, by simply hacking automated mitigations into the mastodon codebase. there are a few feature flags on the treehouse mastodon fork to turn on and off those mitigations.<br/><br/>mitigating crapfloods with automation is essential to ensure a moderation team can scale. otherwise the moderation team will spend a lot of time cleaning up crapfloods.<br/><br/>defederating typical sources of crapfloods is also recommended, but we have dealt with trolls who farm accounts on normal instances that wouldn&#39;t typically be defederated.<br/><br/>so you really need automation here. 2024-08-03T01:47:57Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqszhu9nfcwzrf4qamllxm3rv56s489uk8d7jqkga8m47y5n7xmdylczyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6pftwz4 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsp2zjjesezfnpdq3gt7hw3jz2a2mrxcrj9xh38fk88ht8er46cpuc2s7cyv'>nevent1q…7cyv</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>first off: screening new signups has helped us a lot.<br/><br/>when we first launched treehouse mastodon, because we have high profile community members, we attracted trolls basically immediately whose goals were to disrupt operations of the instance.<br/><br/>the most notable incident involved a person who signed up for an account and then immediately uploaded multiple pieces of media which were CSAM.<br/><br/>this actually has wound up going very badly for that person, who has had to cancel his podcast several times because his door has gotten kicked in by law enforcement due to this, and other maladaptive behavior. 2024-08-03T01:42:09Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsp2zjjesezfnpdq3gt7hw3jz2a2mrxcrj9xh38fk88ht8er46cpuczyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6jrxffz inspired by <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1fd2lu838dkm58sm2gh5an5acrwd7gz2eyl059nt8fu4jk798k7qqlrf2f9" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Darius Kazemi</span> (<span class="italic">npub1fd2…f2f9</span>)</a></span>&#39;s talk at #fossy24 about the study he and <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1sacl4yvfyeurcng493dnfsq4w0hnelqcs9fzk2fk60rn3mpj49ds90kcpe" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Erin Kissane</span> (<span class="italic">npub1sac…kcpe</span>)</a></span> did about fediverse moderation, i figured i would outline how treehouse moderation works.<br/><br/>so if that does not interest you, feel free to mute this thread. 2024-08-03T01:38:18Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs0307zxrjt05m5xs0lt7n3kk8swrngg8jnncmr8xhy9sq5sqtck8qzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6mp5fzd i wish oftc would support sasl already 2024-08-03T00:51:09Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsrl4xkljn0hnl7m2cajj46gf0edrfdy7kteuhrmszzv6qqhhsv2zgzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j67haf24 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsr6lyueccljd0pu9aeg4ahqnf3t287zrl6muegvq79te6e84ez98cwhqh88'>nevent1q…qh88</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>text? who needs that 2024-08-03T00:34:58Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsq44zte5p4ccmmzvp33xzcqdha9mwcx3ug38cyalwka6205nsnxhgzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6s5ssht someone literally asked what BSD stands for, which honestly does seem like a good question for today&#39;s youth 2024-08-02T18:36:19Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsq4585z2603z70fl3lhyla0lewkg57htftay5j7dhn9j8tsek9s3qzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j64n6ky7 damn, the osuosl had a lot more built out infrastructure than i thought they had 2024-08-02T16:59:14Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs0a4cygazlgxddrfpdfe48vw27mvu4cxlhzf3nvd83lpknmkkxmyszyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6fdztft In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsfns6pfnx3ddz7y5ajd27a6jclwkelqart072n8f3735w9md8rzhcmpcagm'>nevent1q…cagm</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>as a large language rabbit, i can tell you lots of facts about carrots 2024-08-02T16:53:45Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsrmjxvmjmmvasmlsaf0la3s2r6ndj6xry8hhy5seeernatsr0hggczyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j69rrwm4 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsrd7rt3wm6j7d0wxdshmnymvfvn0euf3wsvq6ay7lfhzg4d8uh3mgjs85s9'>nevent1q…85s9</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>alternatively you can join fedi and make friends for $0 2024-08-02T16:45:35Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsrd7rt3wm6j7d0wxdshmnymvfvn0euf3wsvq6ay7lfhzg4d8uh3mgzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j69rs42e friend costs $99 USD and has no subscription 2024-08-02T16:45:09Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs0tkgg0pmx65qumtc02f4dlmkec6jajl08n0nanqqq4mnl968x29gzyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6kznrgm lets gooooooo!!!!! 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 <br/><br/><a href="https://dev.alpinelinux.org/~loongarch/edge/releases/loongarch64/alpine-standard-240625-loongarch64.iso">https://dev.alpinelinux.org/~loongarch/edge/releases/loongarch64/alpine-standard-240625-loongarch64.iso</a> 2024-07-31T04:54:18Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsx40g98jq8ac6y4dfp4hg6thlhvreq8y0zs3au9cy6keptu2kfunczyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j6lecfzm In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsrhlemghcj75zyundn8qxukjqap52j47f4nj9tz9wrr3jh55maaustln358'>nevent1q…n358</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>the ears, they go flop 2024-07-31T04:33:03Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsrhlemghcj75zyundn8qxukjqap52j47f4nj9tz9wrr3jh55maauszyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j622094t rabbits, haha. rabbits. 2024-07-31T04:32:38Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs9jngxpu7n3455nqgwztvwama9cjrxmhsf8rd56k5xhld4alvhswszyrumq3qf9wk3amsg2x6u5erej0d23xphtgaezr9ljxx502jvls5j697cmvd the funny thing is after i bought the loongarch machine, i started getting ads for counterfeit x86 motherboards too on aliexpress 2024-07-30T05:11:25Z