2026-06-12T19:49:23Z https://yabu.me Delta Chat https://yabu.me/npub1lk4qv5hd50c4u9z9kdy53h45dyu3mq9v0qvx0k0ar348703dw2ystl3m2p https://assets.chaos.social/accounts/avatars/000/091/659/original/f259dcdc9fe552fb.png https://assets.chaos.social/accounts/avatars/000/091/659/original/f259dcdc9fe552fb.png https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsdtp7f45s53xcg8vqtd5hcz7mvv3mnhrcs4qawsfdmzlg5lad022gzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjysw09j In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs0jxkgzc8lvk4x4z2v4v4hlfw4cjsn7ysgmh4gkx0k4tf0264czqqpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqtc0tpp'>nevent1q…0tpp</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsp3sc3agj9t509vw05vnd6672jt2227ummgvxer7aj03gsn0fmhmq6lvqmm" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Truth Collector</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…vqmm</span>)</a></span> it&#39;s using WebRTC with mandatory end-to-end encryption which internally gets negotiated through end-to-end encrypted chat signalling messages. 2026-06-09T19:58:47Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs2z75y2yp66xwuwemrj59sty2z004mls5zvrmfhz7udda006456aqzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjvd0cyf In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2mz7jccpwmp9md9s5wxrygsqzxkhs9xn6rnwspap7mz6ajzulfqcpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqwqltdd'>nevent1q…ltdd</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqs8d4uzxww43acv6897f6srvpxrqescpl4730jzycd8awjl5hvptusly6eda" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqs8d4uzxww43acv6897f6srvpxrqescpl4730jzycd8awjl5hvptusly6eda</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…6eda</span>)</a></span> best place to ask and get more background is <a href="https://support.delta.chat">https://support.delta.chat</a> <br/><br/>Also in the FAQ there is info like on channels: <a href="https://delta.chat/en/help#channels">https://delta.chat/en/help#channels</a> 2026-06-09T19:46:26Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsp6tnw4kkezevv5j4zdx4t6kqhcrxw8vzw6agrafjxw389x2m383szyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egj96hac3 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswlzyhneq44qe8fcewafr0rlp8lge2s3d45sl50wcmuuqmzf4454cpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqdyg5ec'>nevent1q…g5ec</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsfpkl3acte6ymjvxxzx7mg6t6p6tpwkxy9v8ushcfaqds7295kt0sq38dhc" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Marco Zehe</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…8dhc</span>)</a></span> The relay list should synchronize between the devices automatically. If this did not work, maybe try to add a relay from the other device and check if this is synchronized the other way round.<br/><br/>It is fine to try deleting the relay and trying again, but don&#39;t delete the first relay that is the only shared relay between the devices, they need at least one shared relay to be able to communicate and sync the relay list. 2026-06-04T11:47:32Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs2t3gu789lss3vm7hrdamwyjd8u53alscwzdwt6tqcznctakmdssgzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjanv9da In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsyrtpv3kehthv33r03vrpjza50fn69tlgnfha46wng6vfy485dm7cpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mq9q53qj'>nevent1q…53qj</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsfpkl3acte6ymjvxxzx7mg6t6p6tpwkxy9v8ushcfaqds7295kt0sq38dhc" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Marco Zehe</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…8dhc</span>)</a></span> your other devices need to be at least v2.33 to synchronize your relays. Maybe the MacOS client needs to be upgraded? 2026-06-04T10:24:51Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsv7laplytncu0p2c8dsq3x64rtudnda86kyax5mm8zvfrhup5wglqzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egj8je85j In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsg98uz0egkfg2tg0le8s7kh6kld6w5nxtgur8vgztq8amqg58f7hqpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqkxuzt5'>nevent1q…uzt5</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqs9sxw8g6pdtjztlwfvcyhyzx6y4mad2p9x2rx3gk30lj3sd4lm3dqpgjxg0" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Ronin</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…jxg0</span>)</a></span> wir nutzen es selbst viel, und kennen auch viele, die das tun. Im chatmail-relay netzwerk gibt es kaum Probleme mit der Nachrichtenzustellung. Bei klassischen email providern gibt es spam-filter oder configs, die die Nachrichstenzustellung unsicher machen koennen, abgesehen von fehlenden Push notifications. Es ist natürlich nicht auszuschliessen, dass es bugs gibt, gerade auch bei Calls auf bestimmten Geraeten, aber das wird eher auf <a href="https://support.delta.chat">https://support.delta.chat</a> diskutiert. 2026-05-27T17:37:13Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsrffrvtr9c9rma4vcs4qwkkyl54f2sznlzr74n5em7ac4djvc9vhgzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjhhpnrl In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsf36ecm7j8axrn07c7s50zu9uqltxrsd07du38c7wcdexpct7ac7qpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqe46arx'>nevent1q…6arx</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsfngedfjk6napp9cqupwgfxy430zu3gu85y38rd96em3e0t087s0g6z58ej" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Aleksandr Koltsoff</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…58ej</span>)</a></span> There is documentation about various areas of the project, what exactly are you looking for? <a href="https://cosmos.delta.chat/">https://cosmos.delta.chat/</a> gives an overview about the components of the ecosystem. We also plan to publish a security whitepaper later this year, if that&#39;s your angle. 2026-05-27T06:51:06Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsrgz3smcge6wv5m6mqnwte9w0shgaac9ltwgduxs9w48wqyhe8j5czyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjsu5728 Reminder: There are no accounts in the classic sense anywhere with #chatmail or #deltachat. <br/><br/>It&#39;s all private profiles on end user devices which co-ordinate in a #p2p fashion. Chat profiles *use* email (relay) addresses for transporting messages through a federated e2ee-restricted SMTP network. <br/><br/>A chat profile or chat group has zero data on the server. It&#39;s radically different from classic email servers, Whatsapp, Signal, XMPP and Matrix servers which host and control chat identity.<br/><br/> <img src="https://assets.chaos.social/media_attachments/files/116/643/000/131/217/285/original/d3ba9a418234ea6f.png"> 2026-05-26T21:31:02Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsq73qv4gwd650uvctm0rmuxa3l6faxzrpscp5rmwd4etnfy2pcugszyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjl6cfrc The tale of &#34;convenience&#34; is a bit of a trick. A lot of corporate provided services maybe were somewhat convenient a decade ago, but they are now increasingly authoritarian, and people tend to ignore how much time they steal. <br/><br/>Total number of hours spent solving captchas or consent screens with #deltachat #chatmail and #webxdc apps: 0 (zero). Nada. Zilch. <br/><br/>Compare with the estimated 819 million hours which humans spent with Google&#39;s recaptcha alone <a href="https://boingboing.net/2025/02/07/recaptcha-819-million-hours-of-wasted-human-time-and-billions-of-dollars-google-profit.html">https://boingboing.net/2025/02/07/recaptcha-819-million-hours-of-wasted-human-time-and-billions-of-dollars-google-profit.html</a> 2026-05-22T18:38:59Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsrtwwe7l7mpmxztjjzzlzda7rr5wk47cg3ks34f5hmsck57dve3eqzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egj4a62mf In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsy3jp4amt7xjqgj0rx34c7p459ssxuz4flr6ge3v6vsw3xgufn23gpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mq4s90d4'>nevent1q…90d4</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsvqy7vs6250s39tu50wk4v44vm5txmjh4s0tm48s8rjd6lkvnj23ql5r5fw" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>James</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…r5fw</span>)</a></span> Hi :) you need to turn on &#34;Debug Calls&#34; in the &#34;Advanced &gt; Experimental Features&#34; settings, then they should work, on all platforms. If they do not work, please open a bug report on <a href="https://github.com/deltachat/">https://github.com/deltachat/</a> - they are about to become un-experimental very soon. 2026-05-19T19:37:53Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsyz5jccumwcrw6rncwxhy5v4tltvxyy2yjfs4lu344vcjfn6y0dpqzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egj2hv5hx In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsz8fv9km74sj3gyhds85q9dg65wr7z4ft0zpjgxmvs7y0nvpvftpqpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqwl7wpq'>nevent1q…7wpq</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsxl8xl6c3uyr50e05s62dcn3mp74nwua5vc70pdqwhw0lz2f2gk4c4cv5xn" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>M/KΞ 🇪🇺</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…v5xn</span>)</a></span> not sure and probably best to discuss in the forum where there are at least related topics. 2026-05-15T13:56:02Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsy70gsrhzza8sejjw9k2dpj9sgxtkk2zjfmhp4xmfldtre7p6fjeszyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjtstk30 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqspcyjy958pa2wv3glqd5947yxp5caqyag46zaav88cqy387se0w5qpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mq3lshjh'>nevent1q…shjh</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsqft2zk9fzesapjv5rpnv797faw7whm30n9dlc55sv0smfjlah7dsnc7n40" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>jaseg</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…7n40</span>)</a></span> sorry but it&#39;s not clear what wording you are refering to precisely. pull requests can be opened at <a href="https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-pages/blob/main/en/help.md">https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-pages/blob/main/en/help.md</a> and then more properly discussed by the people who care for this page. 2026-05-14T20:28:50Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs02j8llzj2md82dkewylyesmcc9pdhaf288yr4r3vx7kn3tpmf3mgzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjty8snu In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswlvx06mm8wlng64rtku49gl4u8q9snj5892e604nzjle6dh8pwzqpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqgm2v3h'>nevent1q…2v3h</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsqft2zk9fzesapjv5rpnv797faw7whm30n9dlc55sv0smfjlah7dsnc7n40" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>jaseg</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…7n40</span>)</a></span> We are doing our best but mistakes like a wrong link or a misleading link happen. <br/><br/>In the fediverse and support forum, we have otherwise linked to the security FAQ section many times. <br/><br/>What is likely missing more than refining the FAQ entry, is a comprehensive security paper, linking and putting the audits in context, and giving 10-15 pages of going into some details, threat models etc. 2026-05-14T20:14:07Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs8quxhlu0vlskppaqefmfdyn2jzadazpnmq59jhmn2lf9sxkud5mczyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egj0k3h0p In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsvr9n5fuu7pavu4qgs53lswhpenc32kct25ktjg0jngq6slnpq0wqpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqcclk7l'>nevent1q…lk7l</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsqft2zk9fzesapjv5rpnv797faw7whm30n9dlc55sv0smfjlah7dsnc7n40" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>jaseg</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…7n40</span>)</a></span> ups, thanks for pointing a bug in our home page! You are totally right to criticize that audits are not the same as security analysis.<br/><br/>The &#34;audited end-to-end encryption&#34; link should actually go to:<br/><br/><a href="https://delta.chat/en/help#security-audits">https://delta.chat/en/help#security-audits</a><br/><br/>It&#39;s also fixed on <a href="https://delta.chat">https://delta.chat</a> now. <br/><br/>Status: there are 5 published independent audits and one published security analysis from the ETH Applied Crypto Group. There is another soon to be published audit, and more audits scheduled this year. 2026-05-14T18:27:21Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsxx95spncrwmzzacdrhn4nsct00pct4qukaje645a467n8jretfhgzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjq75tsj Good news among the bad news! <br/><br/>If the recent #0day attacks against Linux kernel+servers were launched against #chatmail relays, privacy of chatting with #deltachat is preserved. Why? Because we already assume the server could be actively hostile, and still not read or see any avatar, names or messages. <br/><br/>Since the March 2.48 zero-metadata releases relays/servers do not see cryptographic identities, and get no chance to launch &#34;machine-in-the-middle&#34; (MITM) attacks. <br/><br/><a href="https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero">https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero</a> 2026-05-14T11:16:35Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsg6ks6k0yx3a85wp07mep9s5pz4ezcpf6yg49xyf9k5kktlkwrywgzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjpch4cd In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2tc4f8r9kh5p83le0jxd9gwgrmzauw6y3tzqv84hetqeuc2rtflqpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqm5lnls'>nevent1q…lnls</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsd039eetats3l49avswmn2kqk2ucdzpn6ehsnfutqjqper486n6qqlwjcvg" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsd039eetats3l49avswmn2kqk2ucdzpn6ehsnfutqjqper486n6qqlwjcvg</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…jcvg</span>)</a></span> Since version 1.10.0 of chatmail/relay (<a href="https://github.com/chatmail/relay/releases/tag/1.10.0">https://github.com/chatmail/relay/releases/tag/1.10.0</a>) this should not be necessary because of the change that removes more messages when mailbox is about to run out of space. 2026-05-08T19:12:28Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsrslsfsuzc0xnyx3n65p8ev0c7ynwqw2stsz3y6p9qw4nww08jtgczyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egj9gm93c In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsrhejq2au0u4026ca3dfn5njg8uqu8dm8xgrm0khu6hyxahvx87fspzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqa6zahh'>nevent1q…zahh</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqszdqpqcuhhx5v0m72zwvf4pc9c25m8m6kycnwehg9zu44lnjpq3lg4s9gsf" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>RC 🌳</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…9gsf</span>)</a></span> <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsqjz8agcfq3ef32cmuksjmgldm753mpeckmpkd5mnnwqm9d3jdnlcj685zd" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsqjz8agcfq3ef32cmuksjmgldm753mpeckmpkd5mnnwqm9d3jdnlcj685zd</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…85zd</span>)</a></span> very interesting, thanks! Indeed lateral thinking with withered technology is very close to what we are trying to do ... 2026-05-08T12:07:09Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqszl5agq4uuhd3fcsnn00awajhrj5h0f2e85ftctmr5vwa9lqyukdczyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjcn4uvn We don&#39;t think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally. But the Cyber Authority China (CaC) seems to take offense: <br/><br/>- they made Apple remove #deltachat iOS for mainland china<br/><br/>- their great firewall appears to block some #chatmail relays<br/><br/>- if you ask DeepSeek directly about Delta Chat, it doesn&#39;t want to talk<br/><br/>It&#39;s pretty sad, really. Everybody on this planet needs, and has a human right to private communication.<br/><br/> <img src="https://assets.chaos.social/media_attachments/files/116/523/548/441/767/249/original/ad53d7ff60ee21bc.png"> 2026-05-05T19:22:58Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsf0zqhcv9hjv3pdut3vmhx32thnz09hapsfpc03wdm6kqq6uccnpszyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egj420vas Congrats to #protonmail for beating us on introducing Post-Quantum Cryptography into mail messaging! <br/><br/>No worries. We&#39;ll implement <a href="https://autocrypt2.org">https://autocrypt2.org</a> which additionally offers reliable deletion / forward secrecy during 2026 :)<br/><br/>We are working with Proton cryptographers on OpenPGP specifications, and they are now moving towards using <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqswyd5r90a8mrrk9e3ffgahlhya7aztkge30yl3zhulnywy7955v7sdppngr" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqswyd5r90a8mrrk9e3ffgahlhya7aztkge30yl3zhulnywy7955v7sdppngr</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…pngr</span>)</a></span> , the end-to-end encryption we are using. <br/><br/>Everything will be based on RFC9580 (#OpenPGP v6) ... the eocsystem is moving :)<br/><br/><a href="https://proton.me/blog/introducing-post-quantum-encryption">https://proton.me/blog/introducing-post-quantum-encryption</a> 2026-05-05T11:07:27Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsttarwuq0d9kv4p4ws3vrjv47zz04ptrn096w493l4f46u5fmuszgzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjhwxhrv Ok, #protonmail beat us on introducing PQC cryptography, but we&#39;ll beat them on Reliable Deletion 2026-05-05T10:54:52Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsgakta2pjrnygswcd6ghvrtuv0fz8al9yjwq0ysw5h2jt2j98z0dqzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjd87358 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswsl6lvtkvgqa36fyl7udl2qt5345ynmgx59gk887r08xsed3jrgqpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqe86z88'>nevent1q…6z88</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsxe8jlmegfqwq95r7ef59fk5e6zf9x2hqrwve5jdlhvhxmummq29g5cvr2t" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>ArcaneChat</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…vr2t</span>)</a></span> <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsqxhmm3v9mlvc6jawetneusnyjg9333cg48ttujhy9s7vjeufnd8cd4zqdw" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>pancake :radare2:</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…zqdw</span>)</a></span> it&#39;s fine to call us out on the mixing of concerns. It was actually meant to direct some attention to other projects and not just put us in the center, but it also was confusing the message a bit, hopefully now sufficiently clarified. Let&#39;s maybe not discuss this here further if you can agree -- we can always open a chat group ;) 2026-05-02T21:42:13Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsv89533rzrgxet5a00xrjgu95txvrwh774wx5jzxztrn8jmc26j8gzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egj0eycvt <br/><br/>All of the advances in #deltachat apps and the growth of the #chatmail relay network, wouldn&#39;t be possible without public funds and private donations, an estimated 800K EUR in 2026 ❤️ money goes to ~16 FOSS contributors with no money left for president, board or director salaries 🖤<br/><br/>Signal uses &gt;50 Million per year, Telegram and Whatsapp 100&#39;s Millions, and they are all not building permission-free decentralized chat infra and apps, let alone secure mini app ecosystems <a href="https://webxdc.org">https://webxdc.org</a> 2026-05-02T18:19:09Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs9kphsvg7c68vgy4344rw670f65t5ex7sm9lr37r457z4ny0453lszyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjungh2e In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsfg24ytd7aqls5a4mqhlkd232pp52ygv7mjz7527degtep3du0uqcpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqgxtksc'>nevent1q…tksc</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqs28wfdmafesh8hc3d0mehfys2p6dmp3x4cenjae7s87jnncj8gtsqh04u7t" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Lutin Discret</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…4u7t</span>)</a></span> <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqstsd7ep8g0r92lqx69f2tzejplq65qlwu5w3qkvl93u6rdcn3hjqs62u9q8" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>DeltaTouch</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…u9q8</span>)</a></span> <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsrg7s75kcf2nrtny3nj8emwhgf2eu5px78zywl64e62hkwwdgpxwgcec5mx" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsrg7s75kcf2nrtny3nj8emwhgf2eu5px78zywl64e62hkwwdgpxwgcec5mx</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…c5mx</span>)</a></span> <br/>chatmail relays, and the associated email infrastructure, are evolving quite a lot but we don&#39;t post much about it here. #chatmail infrastructure also is the *core Rust library* which is used by all the clients, so it&#39;s not just the &#34;server&#34; side. See also <a href="https://chatmail.at">https://chatmail.at</a><br/><br/> <img src="https://assets.chaos.social/media_attachments/files/116/506/011/772/876/563/original/250d7caafc40de2a.png"> <br/> <img src="https://assets.chaos.social/media_attachments/files/116/506/018/680/153/355/original/40798d876241e659.png"> 2026-05-02T16:54:38Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsygj590qnl38k3l4mxp0l3gc8dqjy994755sky0fq689hp3c038qczyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjceshpu In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsrwpw93lh2jw4xuu8mzskg478rksdnn8ru9s6ufkys5h90l7nqztspzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqxfsaga'>nevent1q…saga</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsxl8xl6c3uyr50e05s62dcn3mp74nwua5vc70pdqwhw0lz2f2gk4c4cv5xn" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>M/KΞ 🇪🇺</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…v5xn</span>)</a></span> <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqstsd7ep8g0r92lqx69f2tzejplq65qlwu5w3qkvl93u6rdcn3hjqs62u9q8" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>DeltaTouch</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…u9q8</span>)</a></span> <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsqxhmm3v9mlvc6jawetneusnyjg9333cg48ttujhy9s7vjeufnd8cd4zqdw" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>pancake :radare2:</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…zqdw</span>)</a></span> <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsrg7s75kcf2nrtny3nj8emwhgf2eu5px78zywl64e62hkwwdgpxwgcec5mx" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsrg7s75kcf2nrtny3nj8emwhgf2eu5px78zywl64e62hkwwdgpxwgcec5mx</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…c5mx</span>)</a></span> we edited the post to be clearer about the fact that neither Delta Chat nor the other chatmail clients are receiving funding. The chatmail infrastructure consists of &#34;relay&#34; setup templates and the &#34;core chatmail library&#34; that is used by all clients. More here <a href="https://chatmail.at">https://chatmail.at</a> 2026-05-02T13:56:58Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsdy7j2pfcqn6e53269ylm2zzqlxm5f3fvd7ezm7dh2exu54gc5cxszyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjq2qtj7 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqn5lzh8a2df4l40wy7hatx4xmwdpsl4fq0sh9ff9scsvkxqwwftgpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mquwwlrr'>nevent1q…wlrr</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsqxhmm3v9mlvc6jawetneusnyjg9333cg48ttujhy9s7vjeufnd8cd4zqdw" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>pancake :radare2:</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…zqdw</span>)</a></span> sorry. we edited the original post, reads clearer? Otherwise drop a DM but please keep in mind we have a 500 char limit and dopn&#39;t want to rewrite the whole post :) 2026-05-02T13:48:45Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsth95nrwg9fvt3clu6zwm9xdvyszs5xfge708ewr2j4l7fm76vxpgzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjz56ww2 We’ve been busy building and releasing but it’s high time to share some major news: @sovtechfund is investing nearly €500K into #chatmail <br/><br/>This 18-month commitment supports chatmail maintainers keeping the core infrastructure secure and evolving, which is the backbone for: <br/><br/> #DeltaChat<br/> @arcanechat<br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqstsd7ep8g0r92lqx69f2tzejplq65qlwu5w3qkvl93u6rdcn3hjqs62u9q8" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>DeltaTouch</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…u9q8</span>)</a></span> <br/>Parla on Gnome (cc <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsqxhmm3v9mlvc6jawetneusnyjg9333cg48ttujhy9s7vjeufnd8cd4zqdw" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>pancake :radare2:</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…zqdw</span>)</a></span> )<br/>and many chat bots<br/><br/>A huge thank you to the Sovereign Tech Fund for investing in open, secure and decentralized communication!<br/><br/><a href="https://www.sovereign.tech/tech/chatmail">https://www.sovereign.tech/tech/chatmail</a> 2026-05-02T13:30:24Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs9amll6ga9472e3f3va5s2xuuwmc26k0kpm93lzahx9t5jvvcjswczyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjwfq335 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsxk3vg6vlv9jc5ys33glugsdlv7ywv4n4nfee4r9lsq27tn48xvygpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqwmqhc3'>nevent1q…qhc3</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsyn2up3z8znmed58maxxqcw3kse6gxgjjlnxws9h8x5cj2fsdaa8qgaq8z8" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>CENI</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…q8z8</span>)</a></span> can you DM us the IP addresses it tries to connect to? It should only try to connect to your mail servers/relays and nothing else. 2026-04-29T15:44:49Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsyvxyqkw8rlmgft2aw056awvpaxdp3w394997p0xe4vhm7fwe8pwszyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjpqehku In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqsufgwelk30galnftdd8cycaa9lg9kmtzh56xwsmufqr427djc2gpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqug334z'>nevent1q…334z</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsq4lvlf6uh6c0nd4txlx4atj2p8ew7ns2ychae7fdxhqsmm003fqsutsqwl" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>bituur esztreym</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…sqwl</span>)</a></span> it was about #chatmail relays <a href="https://chatmail.at/relays">https://chatmail.at/relays</a> 2026-04-26T05:27:03Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs0m38lek9nyejgnjcsr3qk456aqtcg9c5uex0xuy6m2uy4m7t3ceqzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjq27asq &#34;it&#39;s always the receiver that determines the meaning of a message&#34; is a famous opening quote at the first symposium on self organizing systems in Chicago, 1959. This and many other findings from those circles re-appear in our day to day discussions. <br/><br/>We are doing next steps towards automating planet-wide decentralized onboarding, including in Internet islands, without resorting to a central list of relays. Good news: we have now officially lost track of even the number of existing relays 😂 2026-04-25T21:24:43Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsyhmlq2cgf7vqsfr23n5cekcgkp9ql9s9es0k9kpk69y3fr6uvcvgzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjdjk67u In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsf624gntnrmm7pz79msvzdyxa24d9f55s9nrft7dnycsyce3z35dspzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqgywe46'>nevent1q…we46</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsxl8xl6c3uyr50e05s62dcn3mp74nwua5vc70pdqwhw0lz2f2gk4c4cv5xn" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>M/KΞ 🇪🇺</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…v5xn</span>)</a></span> thanks for the pointer. we are indeed following rollout of formats as &#34;Jpeg XL&#34;. while bigtech support has surged recently, we still have to support lots of older devices that don&#39;t support it natively yet and would require additional effort or have poor performance. for that reason, it&#39;s not a priority just now, but we’re keeping a close eye on it. 2026-04-25T16:48:28Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsvexcg7a3uvu3pu8akrgha4930xcergtea4qja0tk743xttat5wjqzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egj29npd2 Making sure that deleted messages are actually deleted and unrecoverable is more involved than most folks think. The FBI could recently recover deleted Signal messages from an iOS phone because the notifications you see on your phone were stored in an extra database. Apple has now fixed this, also making #deltachat iOS users safer. Few know that so called &#34;forward secrecy&#34; is all about deleted messages becoming unrecoverable, see <a href="https://autocrypt2.org">https://autocrypt2.org</a> for our plans<br/> <a href="https://www.heise.de/en/news/FBI-extraction-of-deleted-Signal-messages-Apple-secures-iPhones-better-11269038.html">https://www.heise.de/en/news/FBI-extraction-of-deleted-Signal-messages-Apple-secures-iPhones-better-11269038.html</a> 2026-04-23T15:16:09Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsz9x2r5uc9rkhjxy6cg6w2gjal4kham5nnnvz49eddhwsesdhwevqzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjt6mtys In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqspzynqqy64jfynnk8d952yv4vesr2qhnng2c33h5mcr4fkyspys0spzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqy24n30'>nevent1q…4n30</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqs22qjmkh7wvfjkgwyl35ua2h5syqa36lrdz5mf9h0x0amwhptsp5qg5cq3m" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Murilo</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…cq3m</span>)</a></span> it&#39;s usually better to find a phone-wide solution to protecting individual app access. Moreover, there are many real-world threats where an app lock does not help at all, unfortunately. FWIW you can backup your account to a file, store it remotely, delete Delta Chat, and and re-instate it all later when needed and safe again. To discuss this more in depth, it&#39;s better to move to the <a href="https://support.delta.chat">https://support.delta.chat</a> 2026-04-22T22:04:46Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs893deq8cn06qdaf0r0fgnf46z3zw93vvpnx4rhl03mkvh2dnfvyqzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjvwpdpu #deltachat user profiles are private and invisible to the public. No one can discover you, or your children, via phone numbers or any other public handle. Chat profiles exist only on user devices. No PIN and no &#34;SMS verification code&#34; ever asked or needed. <br/><br/>The lack of &#34;public discovery&#34; also means you don&#39;t auto-discover others via phone numbers or other public handles. Getting in contact with others is &#34;opt in&#34;: you scan a QR code or click an invite link to join a group or open a chat. 2026-04-22T16:36:41Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsdm38syv4ych76svvmawngsrjdfxfguqkfnhmksxnnsxdtxuzhewczyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egj9pat5a In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqszuwm40hc0u99qdqkk2zrgwdyef75r7eylpkun6sdgmjxg7eulmvqpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqetaz3k'>nevent1q…az3k</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqszm5qaerr6dfl5ng574sfz57pdkrff6ek8mdt7xmteu3rsedkapdccl4sxc" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>dummzeuch</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…4sxc</span>)</a></span> we strive towards making relay selection completely automatic, but for now we want to make sure it works at all, and smooth around the edges ;) 2026-04-22T08:15:26Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsxvwq5su566qn7vqsyq7htnww5qgjah7cedhq2cyp3l9jyjcptu0szyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjsmt3fu In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsypjl6gdegzdvc63ghl4ds48r342dsqejccxaaxv8pzh7dtf937wcpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqckkm70'>nevent1q…km70</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqs26jrwh5gqwrsh4fvnrnydd0s86yk5pj2eepemg4jcxc6mg2azv3gay3jrm" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Martin Thornton</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…3jrm</span>)</a></span> If you add multiple relays to your profile and change between them, you will appear as the same contact, both in 1:1 and group chats. Internally since Delta Chat v2 all contacts in encrypted chats (the ones not marked with an envelope icon) are identified by their OpenPGP key, and it does not matter from which email address the message arrives, so when you switch to another address your contacts will likely not even notice unless they look in debug info. 2026-04-22T04:16:11Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsvvw0nmp93nsdwqn6w0s24wzutgv0ccw4xmv6ppjs3mdnwy3hj5vszyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjw5qwzv In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsp9e3txqh888l7yvndtaqzl6rwrxtfmw4q7xc2whxjn53qut86g2qpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqz3g4th'>nevent1q…g4th</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqs26jrwh5gqwrsh4fvnrnydd0s86yk5pj2eepemg4jcxc6mg2azv3gay3jrm" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Martin Thornton</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…3jrm</span>)</a></span> You can switch the sending relay at any time. If you send a message and sending gets stuck because the sending relay is not reachable, you can select another relay for sending and keep sending messages. There is no automatic &#34;failover&#34; yet. 2026-04-21T22:57:09Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqstruzppgez3z9t4e4rvkmza22z83shwk9tdgpjn6nk9gjanf69c6czyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egj93cyte In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsy2ctft24ukn569mmhnw85ttdndwq4mdl45rts6ahcd9tqtlvl7wcpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqae9v4q'>nevent1q…9v4q</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsfpkl3acte6ymjvxxzx7mg6t6p6tpwkxy9v8ushcfaqds7295kt0sq38dhc" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Marco Zehe</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…8dhc</span>)</a></span> Go to your existing profile. Settings. Advanced. Relays. And add a relay there. 2026-04-21T17:02:40Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsxf9nfd9l32l5u67ejh5xrreycqafhskdh93uj7lg8ae3fqha6hhszyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjtpepza In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsy6rczzy6c3krg4aazdh0kd2c9vygwzfr9um0n8tgzgnpnt4aataqpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqhahp8j'>nevent1q…hp8j</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsfpkl3acte6ymjvxxzx7mg6t6p6tpwkxy9v8ushcfaqds7295kt0sq38dhc" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Marco Zehe</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…8dhc</span>)</a></span> the instructions were about adding a second relay. In the screen you posted you can just create a profile and then go to advanced settings. 2026-04-21T16:49:18Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsgtfrl0mvvf3m5qz0qk2ntxz4pw8ht38vtu6wve82x32ntcd2736szyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjrjd9km In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqspjf4t80sznsp5ml85lavpzl47sh27c4hd4wrh820l7gx9hd86l0spzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqhzh8u5'>nevent1q…h8u5</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsfpkl3acte6ymjvxxzx7mg6t6p6tpwkxy9v8ushcfaqds7295kt0sq38dhc" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Marco Zehe</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…8dhc</span>)</a></span> Are you doing this on the phone or on desktop?<br/><br/>From Android, if you go to the second relay page (<a href="https://mehl.cloud/">https://mehl.cloud/</a>) and click on the QR code (with the &#34;Einen kostenlosen Email-Account bekommen&#34; alt text), this will open Delta Chat, possibly ask you to unlock the phone, and add a relay to the currently selected account. 2026-04-21T16:06:25Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsydxvgjsjhl9kxg76dys9ydauzc6d8f8tyyn7638eynzsf7dz4xjszyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjkac9qx In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2225ynsduevq7qx3qdzyxrvkdxedg4a9uv43feklns4xtj3rwtmqpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqm2mypn'>nevent1q…mypn</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsrzpz0wdy9uc565r7heuhktpc0rwntdnhdshtn883y7kcf60yl20gq565e6" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Hypolite Petovan</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…65e6</span>)</a></span> using two relays means that it works when either one of them works. When one fails, the other can still be used for chatting. It does not introduce a dependency but makes your more independent from any single server. 2026-04-21T15:59:40Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsy2nz3gjvssvazxt3fxwd5vjveavq808qv40mfeu5ne706ggtdfpqzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjskz3gj In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsdqtk6ykh4qey92vmcds6q6tl45up04k8fgfpfr3k6yzarxkpefscpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqezax2r'>nevent1q…ax2r</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsrzpz0wdy9uc565r7heuhktpc0rwntdnhdshtn883y7kcf60yl20gq565e6" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Hypolite Petovan</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…65e6</span>)</a></span> You can use your own mailbox on a non-chatmail server if you want. If you are sure it works reliably all the time, you also don&#39;t need multiple mailboxes. You can also add chatmail mailboxes next to non-chatmail ones if you want to have things working when your server is down but chatmail relay you added works. 2026-04-21T14:39:19Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsgwagcjtpw24wy7zxxw2z75p0z7dfzzxu7kk9xxuwxfhpa7803xeczyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjnyj5cw This morning nine.testrun.org was briefly unavailable, some network problem. A good time to remind everyone to add a second relay to your #deltachat app:<br/><br/>1. Go to <a href="https://chatmail.at/relays">https://chatmail.at/relays</a> randomly choose one of the listed relay pages and copy the invitation code to your clipboard <br/><br/>2. In delta chat settings go to advanced/relays and tap &#34;add relay&#34; and paste the invitation code<br/><br/>3. That&#39;s it. <br/><br/>If one relay is unavailable you still can receive and send messages. <br/> <a href="https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero#maximizing-availability-and-resilience-through-multi-path-delivery">https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero#maximizing-availability-and-resilience-through-multi-path-delivery</a> 2026-04-21T13:42:40Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsg0ynxg0l7zhjylk4jd97t5fp5mzu6wz6cukkrsc57h4tunmmdfcszyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egj5vf6pd In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs8r38nzwut4wgqhl4scqt7gccks8wet6vlk9yghmd6cg02hypr64cpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqw4cdh6'>nevent1q…cdh6</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsqc4l2natlucnvzjwfyhwweedt4rtmj8zszds375hgf98lg9j08cczpsr57" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>User</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…sr57</span>)</a></span> new releases are rolling 2.49 bug fixes mostly. Well see what next releases bring :) 2026-04-18T12:47:10Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsy6hq2x7eeqg0gvnfgag5xunqm4kemw7luy7agv5n44g7ks77d2yszyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjxnl755 &#34;Popularity is overrated&#34; is an often occuring phrase in our circles. Which is of course nonsense because only what is popular, counts, right? Only what everybody else does is a valid choice, right? #deltachat #chatmail and #webxdc are used in private places and communities that people are molding for themselves. We are just providing tools and approaches that work ... At least most of the time 😅 &#34;Nothing works all the time&#34; is another project mantra. Brb preparing the next releases :)<br/><br/> <img src="https://assets.chaos.social/media_attachments/files/116/425/711/182/781/916/original/5da9f9b36a9fb34f.jpg"> 2026-04-18T12:33:14Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqspk6xsu0szmzzw68tzmka3pf85lcwraqmhd6ksck9fznw6ktm5v3szyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjxja5u6 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsvlk323wqj42099m0lgwcsssrrc9qzkjyx70s3g2zs0t986uzwj4spzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqp22d83'>nevent1q…2d83</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsqkfpqlh9wtzt555gxxl0v5kq7yxnx2559sq5k0dzl06u9yn6mw8qu3vhxg" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Rosano</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…vhxg</span>)</a></span> currently 2.49 begins rolling (bug fix releases) and then channel improvements are &#34;ASAP&#34;/ next release :) 2026-04-17T19:19:14Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsq2qq88668emyhyh7enrdz8ra73w9dnjvjm9f3eu2esvudqqj3sxszyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjkcuke5 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqszdf9jjawvk94763muz8n03pw07fqezsvwgan8jgunjvx3f0r92aqpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqhz5xrq'>nevent1q…5xrq</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsykr5j4hj00umn7lhpetjptrr3wsj8e8gvj62k6geajuhtmeutjaq2tszsq" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsykr5j4hj00umn7lhpetjptrr3wsj8e8gvj62k6geajuhtmeutjaq2tszsq</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…szsq</span>)</a></span> actually, if you ask so directly: we&#39;ve heart rumors of a web client beginning to work, but it&#39;s a very wild project we won&#39;t point to, yet. Quite obviously,. there are challenges around E2EE and security when doing a chatmail web client. Stay tuned :) 2026-04-13T09:23:06Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsrl906y5qfm27dnlrhzfz7smyj7584lpkryvtzy3rzydaynv6p09szyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egj0cv0vr Apart from the new #Gnome effort, there also is an interesting experiment of a #Rust terminal-client with #Ratatui -- for others to start from should they feel they need some enjoyable distraction :) <br/><br/><a href="https://git.sakamoto.pl/j-g00da/deltarat-experiments">https://git.sakamoto.pl/j-g00da/deltarat-experiments</a><br/><br/>#Chatmail clients typically use the Rust core library which provides all networking, cryptography, persistence, real-time networking, mail relay/server interop. Documentation to help with writing clients is scattered, but at least there are plenty examples to learn from. 2026-04-13T08:14:27Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqspgjx7fchxgc8tx7f4t48cxrhx4yaasvrv5s8m408fp2hwm7ynghgzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjrjxf9k In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsza9tpyc7qhagnudrvypj9zkpfl3pj05h8k7dtk0knvrfqdsy8hscpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqu8lwxq'>nevent1q…lwxq</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsrlvpepyfygmxxvw67832re9m95m32glvwx9e9wayanjgeum9u87cythca9" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>anon_4601</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…hca9</span>)</a></span> did you try enabling &#34;Debug Calls&#34;? See also <a href="https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero#native-calls-on-android-and-ios">https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero#native-calls-on-android-and-ios</a> 2026-04-11T14:22:04Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqst37j94esp8ha7yxxggprclwhhhc6jz4a5k48d7d2yyedz6fvs4jczyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjp2yacc In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsq4mmhj3wd47w9my2l4ta9kzqqy3nfcs8u0tp5thsqqm3dgua2llspzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mq7fuvxc'>nevent1q…uvxc</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqsq6wwus6f2uyxm5w3uhu3vj75urmuulf46rc6lvttnv5ky3perznccwdnwg" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>leberschnitzel</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…dnwg</span>)</a></span> fixed, thanks. 2026-04-11T13:43:07Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsdzr3kep7wu5984ks3w6twp6fmpq3s8ms7g60gj4zggd8p2rnuqsqzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjmhdwaj In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsxxdlusshgnz8akcrk8wlmr08rmmgykwxz9q42nefcmysvq33y2dspzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mq28ksw7'>nevent1q…ksw7</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>the public #chatmail relay list <a href="https://chatmail.at/relay">https://chatmail.at/relay</a> covers about ~20% or so of chat relays we heart about and have traces or hints from, and we definitely don&#39;t see everything -- which is how it should be :) 2026-04-11T13:39:53Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsxxdlusshgnz8akcrk8wlmr08rmmgykwxz9q42nefcmysvq33y2dszyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjrxxvck What if all public funding and all private donations to our efforts stop tomorrow? <br/><br/>Users should be fine for years thanks to the wonderful world-wide community of #chatmail relay operators 💜 Relays are dirt cheap to run. Also, our developments are much cheaper and less complex compared to what we know from comparable efforts.<br/><br/>No worries though!<br/><br/>We currently have moneys to help sustain ~15 contributors, with a sum similar to what other projects pay for their foundation president/CEO alone :) 2026-04-11T13:27:16Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs2c3mhav7exckgfyvdf2n3rkps0ap8fzg2gu5s4pwtj54ej77n5fczyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjma0ccf In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs95vdmh5k3hf4kzlreq2tzeda0xzq93qq8taun4qwxc26un5054acpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuarhd9hxkmr99ekx7mqtrgs0g'>nevent1q…gs0g</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5wa5ku6mvv5hxcmmvqqspg6feumfl5kndgrtgkp6aqpnngf87geqy5j9menp33cl9hneqxuc75dmmg" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>rixx</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…dmmg</span>)</a></span> true story: we regard German train rides and using wifi there as a good test bed for our networking code&#39;s ability to work in slow and malfunctioning networks. For example two travelling contributors messaged and established p2p realtime networking between two high speed running ICE trains, to test robustness and reconnection fitness :) 2026-04-11T05:44:03Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs9q3slvnp9n3zmedysq8q5cwx0hls0d74ctnuseqpx2pj898k47mqzyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjnt5pnv <br/><br/>Do you want to live in a world where private digital communication is not possible anymore? That&#39;s a growing reality for many people world-wide. <br/><br/>Private communication is extremely important to salvage into the digital realm and it&#39;s not just about encryption, but about the ability to choose your own identities privately, without state sanctioning. <br/><br/>It needs caring for solving real problems, in real implementations, for real people, and not just some riding on grand ideas. Just saying :) 2026-04-09T15:31:46Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs979402jfv9p39fs2lj6a5syx0flqpu9ars7hhqy7q4vj22y4qlkszyr765pjjak3lzhs5gke5jjx7k35nj8vq43upse7el5wx5le794egjwstvht #deltachat contributors range from age 16 to 65, spanning diverse genders and even more countries and cultures. We have many discussions, and also conflicts but we usually don&#39;t carry those out in big public groups but rather go for 1:1s and generally small-group discussions. There is no central assembly or board that decides everything. It&#39;s more chaotic and admittedly hard to get an overview on, but thats&#39; also how the yearly #CCC congress comes about, which many of us regularly attend. 2026-04-09T12:40:58Z