Nostr notes by Jupiter's Fedi-Memes on (streams)

Tired: Inviting Facebook users to Mastodon. Wired: Inviting ...

2025-01-13T15:12:09Z

Tired: Inviting Facebook users to Mastodon.

Wired: Inviting Facebook users to Friendica.

Hired: Inviting Facebook users to Hubzilla.

Desired: Inviting Facebook users to (streams).

Admired: Inviting Facebook users to Forte.

Misfired: Inviting Facebook users to Lemmy.

Expired: Inviting Facebook users to diaspora*.

Fired: Inviting Facebook users to Bluesky.

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[h2]Explanation:[/h2]

Based on the [url=https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tired-wired]Tired/Wired[/url] meme template.

Inviting everyone to [b]Mastodon[/b] has been the standard and in fact apparently with no alternative during the various Twitter migration waves. But Mastodon is a wannabe Twitter clone and not an appropriate replacement for Facebook. Those who invite Facebook users to Mastodon either don't know that there's more to the Fediverse than Mastodon. Or they haven't understood the Fediverse, they want to get into/stay in contact with those who come over from Facebook, and they can't for the lives of them imagine that Mastodon is federated with anything that isn't Mastodon. Or they're fanatic Mastodon supremacists who are fully convinced that Mastodon is best at everything. Or they simply can't stand the thought that someone could join something that isn't Mastodon.

[b][url=https://friendi.ca]Friendica[/url][/b] was launched in July, 2010, fourteen and a half years ago, five and a half years before Mastodon, and it was designed as an alternative to Facebook right away. Not as a clone, nobody wanted to make decentralised 1:1 clones of anything back then. But as something that's actually better than Facebook with features that Facebook can't offer, but that (not only) Facebook converts may find useful, while keeping everything that a social network needs. It's the only Facebook alternative in the Fediverse with native mobile apps available. But it is not the be-all, end-all Facebook alternative.

[b][url=https://hubzilla.org]Hubzilla[/url][/b] came to life in early 2012 as a fork of Friendica by Friendica's own creator. It was created to implement the Zot protocol and nomadic identity. Originally named Red, renamed Red Matrix the same year, it was renamed and rebuilt into the "decentralised social CMS" Hubzilla in 2015. Its wealth in features is second to none in the Fediverse, its security and access permissions control is only matched by its own descendants. However, it also has the steepest learning curve of everything on the list. Still, the Hubzilla community is trying to get its share of Facebook refugees.

[b][url=https://codeberg.org/streams/streams](streams)[/url][/b] is from October, 2021, a fork of a fork of three forks of a fork (of a fork?) of Hubzilla by the same creator. And it's officially and intentionally nameless, brandless, not a project and released into the public domain. It's slimmed down in features from Hubzilla while still having features that Friendica lacks, it's dramatically slimmed down in non-nomadic connection options to only ActivityPub, but it's a lot easier to handle than Hubzilla because its handling has been optimised for the modern-day Fediverse and the way it's most likely being used. However, it is almost completely unknown outside of the Hubzilla community, and it needs both more users and more public instances. Getting people on board, however, is made more difficult by the few public instances being almost impossible to find.

[b][url=https://codeberg.org/fortified/forte]Forte[/url][/b] is a (streams) fork by the same creator yet again from August, 2024. Essentially, it's (streams) without specialised nomadic protocols, only relying on ActivityPub even for nomadic identity and being the first to do so. Thus, it is highly experimental and potentially unstable, and it doesn't have any public instances. Still, a few people who aren't Forte's maintainer have set out or want to set out to try it, maybe even as a daily driver. If someone was crazy enough to set up a public, open-registration Forte instance for Facebook refugees, you could only admire their mixture of fearlessness and insanity.

[b][url=https://join-lemmy.org]Lemmy[/url][/b] is sometimes seen as an alternative to Facebook by those who reduce Facebook to its groups. But it's similarly far away from Facebook as Mastodon: It's an all-out Reddit clone. While Mastodon doesn't support groups, Lemmy supports nothing else. In addition, you'd have Facebook users, most of whom don't even know that something like Internet culture exists, end up in a place where shitposts, dank maymays, petty downvotes, power-trippin' mods and rampant xenophobia against anyone and everyone who wasn't raised on Reddit culture lurk around every corner. The same thing that's the natural habitat for Redditors who make up over 99% of all Lemmy users.

[b][url=https://diasporafoundation.org/]diaspora*[/url][/b] is considered the first Facebook alternative by those who don't consider Google+ the first Facebook alternative. However, not only is diaspora* pretty lack-lustre in comparison with Friendica and its descendants, but it's constantly shrinking. Shortly before New Year's Eve 2024, several big pods shut down, and depending on the statistics, diaspora* may have lost over half its users. Also, diaspora* may be decentralised, but it barely has any connections to the outside world, all of which were established from the outsie world (Friendica, Hubzilla, Socialhome) because diaspora* is not interested in federating with something else.

[b]Bluesky[/b] has as little to do with Facebook as Mastodon. It's something entirely different from Facebook. It's an all-out Twitter clone. Basically, switching from Facebook to Bluesky is akin to switching from Facebook to X. Bluesky may not be as ripe with Nazis, but it's for-profit, it's practically a centralised silo, and its enshittification is running at full steam. Whoever invites Facebook users to Bluesky out of all places hasn't understood anything.

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I guess the above is becoming more relevant, now that many ...

2025-01-09T16:36:38Z

In reply to nevent1q…knmr
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I guess the above is becoming more relevant, now that many Fedizens want to launch their own Friendica nodes.

#[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Friendica]Friendica[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Meme]Meme[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=FediMeme]FediMeme[/zrl]

I've read that Bluesky is offline. I can't impossibly ...

2024-11-14T20:35:18Z

I've read that Bluesky is offline. I can't impossibly [i]not[/i] spork that. So have a double feature.

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[h2]Explanation[/h2]

The first image is based on the "[url=https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/dr-evil-air-quotes]Dr. Evil Air Quotes[/url]" meme. The second image is based on the "[url=https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/oh-no-anyway]Oh No! Anyway[/url]" meme template.

On November 14th, 2024, Bluesky's main instance, bsky.social, went offline. Effectively, this meant that Bluesky as a whole went offline because bsky.social is the one instance were practically everyone is. Hardly anyone knows that other so-called PBS's exist, and Bluesky is frequently considered to be not decentralised at all.

#[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Bluesky]Bluesky[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Meme]Meme[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Image%20macro]Image macro[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Reaction%20Image]Reaction Image[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Dr.%20Evil%20Air%20Quotes]Dr. Evil Air Quotes[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Oh%20No%21%20Anyway]Oh No! Anyway[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=EyeContact]EyeContact[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=CWEyeContact]CWEyeContact[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Sensitive]Sensitive[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=%E2%9A%A0%EF%B8%8F]⚠️[/zrl]
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Ever wondered why the "Facebook alternative" side of the ...

2024-10-27T14:09:37Z

Ever wondered why the "Facebook alternative" side of the Fediverse is easy to deploy and so lightweight in spite of its feature wealth?

[spoiler=Caution: Image hidden due to eye contact, crying, anger and Japanese profanity][zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/.well-known/apgateway/did:key:z6Mkf2dhUa65zBYCNVqs3AHyt8uPixauZ7bPzEJn15LJANsd/photos/image/5bf67eea-6778-4ff1-ada4-b6103aff7b5b][zmg alt="Collage of captioned meme images of various kinds in two rows. In the top left, there are two smugly grinning Wojaks, facing half each other, half the audience. The one on the left has the diaspora* logo above his head and his hand on his chin in a pensive gesture. The one to his right is wearing a black tuxedo with a bowtie, and he has the Mastodon logo above his head. These two have a common caption below them: “We're beyond such peasantry as that filthy and grubby PHP. We demand only the best: Ruby on Rails.“ Slightly right of centre, still in the top row, there is a bearded Soyjak with glasses, crying with his mouth wide open, pink eyes and streams of tears running down his cheeks. He is facing towards the left. Above his head is the Pleroma logo. His caption is, in all-caps and ending in five exclamation marks, “Noooooooo, Elixir is the way to go and PostgreSQL!” In the top right, there is another bearded and bespectacled Wojak, facing towards the left again. This one is angry with the Misskey logo above his head. With the same open mouth as the one to his left, he shouts, “Utter heresy, there is no match for TypeScript and Vue.js, baka!” The bottom row is taken up by three creepy-looking brownish moths with glowing eyes. The left one is facing towards the right with the Friendica logo above it. The other two are facing towards the left with the logos of Hubzilla and the streams repository above them. Their common caption is, in huge all caps and with an umlaut, “Lämp”."]https://streams.elsmussols.net/.well-known/apgateway/did:key:z6Mkf2dhUa65zBYCNVqs3AHyt8uPixauZ7bPzEJn15LJANsd/photo/5bf67eea-6778-4ff1-ada4-b6103aff7b5b-1[/zmg][/zrl][/spoiler]

[h2]Explanation:[/h2]

This image is a collage based on various memes.

The top row makes use of [url=https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/wojak]Wojaks[/url], it basically is a [url=https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/wojak-comics]Wojak comic[/url]. The two Wojaks on the right are [url=https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/soy-boy-face-soyjak]Soyjaks[/url], the third one from the left is essentially the same combination of a Soyjak and a [url=https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/crying-wojak]Crying Wojak[/url] as seen in the [url=https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/soyjaks-vs-chads]Soyjaks vs Chads[/url] format. "Baka", as said by the Soyjak in the top right, is Japanese for "idiot" and hints at Misskey, as well as large parts of its target audience, being Japanese. [url=https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/baka]It has become a meme of its own[/url].

The bottom row re-uses the "[url=https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/moth-lamp]Moth Lamp[/url]" meme. This time, however, "lämp", intentionally spelled with an umlaut as per the meme, does not mean a light source. Instead, it stands for a so-called "[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP_(software_bundle)]LAMP stack[/url]" which is the bare minimum Web server equipment.
[list][*]L stands for [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux]Linux[/url] and refers not to the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel]operating system kernel[/url], but to the whole software platform.
[*]A stands for the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_HTTP_Server]Apache HTTP Server[/url].
[*]M stands for the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MySQL]MySQL database management system[/url], nowadays usually in the shape of the MySQL fork [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MariaDB]MariaDB[/url].
[*]P, in this case, stands for the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP]PHP scripting language[/url] used for dynamic websites.[/list]

The three Fediverse server applications represented as moths in the bottom row, captioned with "LÄMP", are [url=https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_is_Friendica%3F]Friendica[/url], a very powerful Facebook alternative created by Mike Macgirvin in 2010, [url=https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_is_Hubzilla%3F]Hubzilla[/url], a very versatile and extremely powerful "federated content management system" which Mike Macgirvin himself created from 2015 out of his own Friendica fork, and the intentionally nameless application in [url=https://codeberg.org/streams/streams]the streams repository[/url] from 2021, itself at the end of a long line of forks by Mike Macgirvin again, starting at Hubzilla. None of the four have any exotic or heavy-weight server software requirements. They need JavaScript for parts of the UI, but otherwise, they can run on a bone-stock Web server, requiring remarkably few CPU and RAM resources.

The four projects in the top row, on the other hand, have more exotic and/or heavy-weight requirements.

The one in the top left is [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora_(software)]diaspora*[/url] from later in 2010 than Friendica, the only one in the image that does not support ActivityPub at all (it is only connected to the few Fediverse projects which support its own protocol, including Friendica and Hubzilla). diaspora* and [url=https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_is_Mastodon%3F]Mastodon[/url] next to it are both written in Ruby on Rails. Thus, they require more hardware resources per user identity than the three at the bottom while not even nearly offering the latter's features.

Next to them, [url=https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_is_Pleroma%3F]Pleroma[/url] from 2016 is famous for being much more lightweight than Mastodon while still offering more. But it is written in the fairly exotic [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elixir_(programming_language)]Elixir[/url] language. Also, it can't use MySQL; it is only compatible with more complex [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostgreSQL]PostgreSQL[/url]. In the meantime, [url=https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_is_Misskey%3F]Misskey[/url], which dates back to 2014, is entirely based on JavaScript: It is written in Microsoft's [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript]TypeScript[/url] with [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vue.js]Vue.js[/url] for the frontend. Let's say there's a reason why the former Firefish fork and now Misskey fork [url=https://iceshrimp.dev/iceshrimp/iceshrimp]Iceshrimp[/url] is currently being re-written from scratch in [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_Sharp_(programming_language)]C#[/url] as [url=https://iceshrimp.dev/iceshrimp/iceshrimp.net]Iceshrimp.NET[/url].

#[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Fediverse]Fediverse[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=diaspora%2A]diaspora*[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Mastodon]Mastodon[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Ruby%20on%20Rails]Ruby on Rails[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Pleroma]Pleroma[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Elixir]Elixir[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=PostgreSQL]PostgreSQL[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Misskey]Misskey[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=JavaScript]JavaScript[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=TypeScript]TypeScript[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Vue.js]Vue.js[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Friendica]Friendica[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Hubzilla]Hubzilla[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=%28streams%29](streams)[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=MySQL]MySQL[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=PHP]PHP[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=LAMP%20stack]LAMP stack[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Meme]Meme[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=FediMeme]FediMeme[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Fediverse%20Meme]Fediverse Meme[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Wojak]Wojak[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Wojak%20comics]Wojak comics[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Soyjak]Soyjak[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Crying%20Wojak]Crying Wojak[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Moth]Moth[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=L%C3%A4mp]Lämp[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Moth%20lamp]Moth lamp[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=EyeContact]EyeContact[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=CWEyeContact]CWEyeContact[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Profanity]Profanity[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=CWProfanity]CWProfanity[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Swearing]Swearing[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=CWSwearing]CWSwearing[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Swear%20word]Swear word[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Crying]Crying[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=CWCrying]CWCrying[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Tears]Tears[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Anger]Anger[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=CWAnger]CWAnger[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Sensitive]Sensitive[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=%E2%9A%A0%EF%B8%8F]⚠️[/zrl]
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Noob: Connect Mastodon to a Mastodon app Pro: Connect Akkoma to a ...

2024-10-15T08:45:49Z

Noob: Connect Mastodon to a Mastodon app

Pro: Connect Akkoma to a Mastodon app

Hacker: Connect Sharkey to a Mastodon app

God: Connect Hubzilla to a Mastodon app

[i](Explanation: Mastodon is what the Mastodon API is made for and what all apps that support the Mastodon API are made for. [url=https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_is_Akkoma%3F]Akkoma[/url] has it implemented, too, but the Mastodon API isn't geared towards it. [url=https://activitypub.software/TransFem-org/Sharkey]Sharkey[/url]'s Mastodon API implementation is so infamously bad that the community is looking for someone to re-write it from scratch. And [url=https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_is_Hubzilla%3F]Hubzilla[/url] doesn't have the Mastodon API implemented at all, so it's completely impossible to connect it to a Mastodon app.)[/i]

#[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Fediverse]Fediverse[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Sharkey]Sharkey[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Mastodon%20API]Mastodon API[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Meme]Meme[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=FediMeme]FediMeme[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Fediverse%20Meme]Fediverse Meme[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Noob%20vs%20Pro]Noob vs Pro[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Noob%20vs%20Pro%20vs%20Hacker]Noob vs Pro vs Hacker[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Noob%20vs%20Pro%20vs%20Hacker%20vs%20God]Noob vs Pro vs Hacker vs God[/zrl]

[spoiler=Caution: Image hidden due to eye contact and ...

2024-10-09T16:56:55Z

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2024-10-09T15:58:16Z

[spoiler=Caution: Image hidden due to eye contact][zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/.well-known/apgateway/did:key:z6Mkf2dhUa65zBYCNVqs3AHyt8uPixauZ7bPzEJn15LJANsd/photos/image/b3b7f6e2-d989-492a-9a58-da938c6433d1][zmg alt="Image macro, based on two vertically arranged screen captures from the TV show Top Gear, each showing show host Jeremy Clarkson with a caption at the bottom, quoting what he actually said in the shown situation. Above the screen captures, there is a white space with a two-part caption. It starts with, “Mastodon: *flooded with spam and has only got full instance block to defend itself*.” This is followed by a blank line and, “Hubzilla and (streams):”. The upper screen capture shows Clarkson with what appears to be a concerned expression on his face. The quote below is, “Oh no!” The lower screen capture shows Clarkson immediately carrying on as if nothing had happened. He obviously actually doesn't care at all. The quote below is, “Anyway...”"]https://streams.elsmussols.net/.well-known/apgateway/did:key:z6Mkf2dhUa65zBYCNVqs3AHyt8uPixauZ7bPzEJn15LJANsd/photo/b3b7f6e2-d989-492a-9a58-da938c6433d1-1[/zmg][/zrl][/spoiler]

[h2]Explanation:[/h2]

The image is based on the "[url=https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/oh-no-anyway]Oh No! Anyway[/url]" meme template.

It takes a jab at how vulnerable to spam especially Mastodon is while [url=https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_is_Hubzilla%3F]Hubzilla[/url] and [url=https://codeberg.org/streams/streams](streams)[/url] are very resilient against it. Mastodon and other Fediverse projects have suffered from several waves of spam, one of which is on-going, but Hubzilla and (streams) have never been affected. There are various reasons for this.

One reason is the option to be notified if mentioned by a non-connection out of the blue. On Mastodon, this option is on by default, and next to nobody turns it off. On Hubzilla and (streams), this option is off by default, and hardly anyone turns it on.

Another reason is because both Hubzilla and (streams) have very advanced permissions systems with over a dozen parameters. For example, on Mastodon, anyone whom you follow can send you their posts and their boosts, and [i]anyone[/i] can reply to your posts and send you DMs. The only countermeasures are muting them, blocking them, blocking their entire instance or having the admins or mods take care of them.

Hubzilla and (streams), in contrast, have vastly more powerful means of self-moderation. They have separate permissions settings for others to send posts, reply to posts and send DMs, amongst other permission settings. These permissions can be generally restricted for the whole Hubzilla or (streams) channel and then granted to certain contacts, keeping non-contacts out. Ignoring and blocking come on top as last resorts.

And this is only what [i]users[/i] can do. [i]Admins[/i] have some other tricks up their sleeves.

Lastly, it's very unlikely that someone will use Hubzilla or (streams) to send spam and even less likely that a bot will use Hubzilla or (streams) to send spam. You can't just create an account and spam away like on Mastodon. It's more likely for public instances of Hubzilla or (streams) to have registration approval than for Mastodon instances. Also, you have to create a channel to be able to post from it; [url=https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_are_channels_on_Hubzilla_and_(streams)%3F]not your account is your identity with everything in it, but your channel is[/url]. This is an extra obstacle. Lastly, while almost the entire rest of the Fediverse defaults to posting in public, both Hubzilla and (streams) default to posting privately to to certain contacts, changing which is anything but straight-forward.

#[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Fediverse]Fediverse[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Mastodon]Mastodon[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Hubzilla]Hubzilla[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=%28streams%29](streams)[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Spam]Spam[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Meme]Meme[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=FediMeme]FediMeme[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Fediverse%20Meme]Fediverse Meme[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Image%20macro]Image macro[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Reaction%20Image]Reaction Image[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Oh%20No%21%20Anyway]Oh No! Anyway[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=EyeContact]EyeContact[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=CWEyeContact]CWEyeContact[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Sensitive]Sensitive[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=%E2%9A%A0%EF%B8%8F]⚠️[/zrl]
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[spoiler=Caution: Image hidden due to eye ...

2024-10-02T20:24:35Z

[spoiler=Caution: Image hidden due to eye contact][zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/.well-known/apgateway/did:key:z6Mkf2dhUa65zBYCNVqs3AHyt8uPixauZ7bPzEJn15LJANsd/photos/image/2baffbb1-f96b-403d-8fc1-5af01df58f6a][zmg alt="Image macro, based on a screen capture from the TV series It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia with a caption above it. It shows the actor Charlie Day as the character Charlie Kelly. His left hand is on a wall covered in lots of printed sheets of paper with red lines drawn across them. His right hand is blurry, gesticulating while holding a cigarette. His facial expression shows a mixture of excitement and stress. He is trying to explain the content of the wall behind him. The caption above the screen capture reads, “Me trying to retell the whole history of Mike Macgirvin's Fediverse creations from Mistpark to Forte:”"]https://streams.elsmussols.net/.well-known/apgateway/did:key:z6Mkf2dhUa65zBYCNVqs3AHyt8uPixauZ7bPzEJn15LJANsd/photo/2baffbb1-f96b-403d-8fc1-5af01df58f6a-1[/zmg][/zrl][/spoiler]

[h2]Explanation:[/h2]

The image is based on the "[url=https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pepe-silvia]Pepe Silvia[/url]" meme template.

It references the complexity of the history of Fediverse server applications created by @[zrl=https://fediversity.site/channel/mikedev]Mike Macgirvin 🖥️[/zrl] which started in July, 2010 with the release of Mistpark, known today as [url=https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_is_Friendica%3F]Friendica[/url]. It led through a maze of forks, all created by Mike from his own works, to his most recent project, Forte, from August, 2024. The only other two survivors from this history are [url=https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_is_Hubzilla%3F]Hubzilla[/url] from 2015 and [url=https://codeberg.org/streams/streams]the streams repository[/url] from 2021. In fact, the streams repository itself adds to the complexity of the history because it is not a project, and the software in it is intentionally without a name and a brand identity.

#[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Fediverse]Fediverse[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Mistpark]Mistpark[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Friendika]Friendika[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Friendica]Friendica[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Red]Red[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Red%20Matrix]Red Matrix[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Hubzilla]Hubzilla[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Osada]Osada[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Zap]Zap[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Mistpark%202020]Mistpark 2020[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Misty]Misty[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Redmatrix%202020]Redmatrix 2020[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Roadhouse]Roadhouse[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=%28streams%29](streams)[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Forte]Forte[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Meme]Meme[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=FediMeme]FediMeme[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Fediverse%20Meme]Fediverse Meme[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Image%20macro]Image macro[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Exploitable]Exploitable[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Pepe%20Silvia]Pepe Silvia[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=EyeContact]EyeContact[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=CWEyeContact]CWEyeContact[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Sensitive]Sensitive[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=%E2%9A%A0%EF%B8%8F]⚠️[/zrl]
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Good news: [There's a Lemmy community for Fediverse memes ...

2024-09-27T12:49:49Z

Good news:

[There's a Lemmy community for Fediverse memes now!](https://feddit.uk/c/fedimemes)

#[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Lemmy]Lemmy[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Memes]Memes[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=FediMemes]FediMemes[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Fediverse%20Memes]Fediverse Memes[/zrl]

The Fediverse, late summer of 2024: The streams repository has no ...

2024-09-12T16:19:04Z

The Fediverse, late summer of 2024:

The streams repository has no official maintainer, and it doesn't look like it'll have a new one anytime soon.

Firefish had its death announced by its maintainer.

And /kbin was already killed by its maintainer without warning.

[spoiler=Caution: Image hidden due to foul language and potential eye contact][zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/.well-known/apgateway/did:key:z6Mkf2dhUa65zBYCNVqs3AHyt8uPixauZ7bPzEJn15LJANsd/photos/image/db118eba-e073-4de7-81a8-67ec65934a16][zmg alt="Image macro consisting of three logos of Fediverse server applications arranged vertically, each with writing below, all on a plain white background. The top logo is the logo of the streams repository with the writing, ”My main developer has largely quit, my future is uncertain.” The middle logo is the Firefish logo with the writing, “That's cute.” The bottom logo is the /kbin logo with the writing, “Bitches, please.”"]https://streams.elsmussols.net/.well-known/apgateway/did:key:z6Mkf2dhUa65zBYCNVqs3AHyt8uPixauZ7bPzEJn15LJANsd/photo/db118eba-e073-4de7-81a8-67ec65934a16-1[/zmg][/zrl][/spoiler]

[h2]Explanation:[/h2]

The image hints at Fediverse server software whose key maintainer has largely or entirely quit. It is not based on a specific template, but it makes use of the meme phrases "[That's cute](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/thats-cute)" and "[Bitch, please](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bitch-please)".

[h3](streams)[/h3]

The top logo is that of [the streams repository](https://codeberg.org/streams/streams). It contains an intentionally nameless, brandless, public-domain-licensed Fediverse server application, one of the most advanced Fediverse server applications with the one most advanced set of permission controls. It was created in October, 2021, as a fork of one of three forks of a fork of probably another fork of Hubzilla, the all-purpose Swiss army knife of the Fediverse, which itself is a fork of maybe another fork of Friendica, a decentralised Facebook alternative from as early as 2010. All of this, including the forks in-between, was created by one man, Mike Macgirvin.

On August 31st, Mike announced in a private post only sent to his connections that the streams repository is basically up for grabs because he quit maintaining Fediverse software. Just like with Friendica in 2012 and Hubzilla in 2018, he wanted the community to take over.

But what was easy for Friendica and Hubzilla was expected to be difficult for (streams), as the nameless application is semi-officially called. That's because it only has a few dozen active users, none of which has both the skills and the time to take over as the new main maintainer. It didn't help that Mike dropped it in the middle of the transformation process towards nomadic identity via ActivityPub, in such a buggy state that inviting more people to (streams) is pretty much out of question.

[h3]Firefish[/h3]

The Firefish logo in the middle stands for [the official announcement of Firefish's end of life](https://info.firefish.dev/notes/9xsukr38m3komd63). Naskya, who rather involuntarily ended up the sole new Firefish developer after original forker and maintainer Kainoa had no time for it anymore, declared not having the energy to continue with the project. Firefish's code repository was put into maintenance mode which means that it won't get any new features anymore. At the end of 2024, support will end. And at the end of February, 2025, both [the code repository](https://firefish.dev) and [the official lighthouse instance](https://info.firefish.dev) will be shut down which will practically mark the official end of Firefish.

[h3]/kbin[/h3]

The /kbin logo at the bottom stands for the even earlier death of /kbin. The ambitious Reddit alternative had only had one sole developer from the very beginning. Ernest Wisniewski never had enough time to make /kbin mature because /kbin was rushed by former Redditors at a very early alpha stage. At the same time, he didn't let anyone help him. Apparently, everything eventually became too much for him. [Nine months ago already](https://github.com/ernestwisniewski/kbin), he quit maintaining /kbin altogether. This summer, he shut down both [the official /kbin website](https://kbin.pub) and [the official lighthouse instance](https://kbin.social) which made up the huge majority of /kbin's size, both with no announcement. There has never been any official statement by Ernest. Some information can be found in [this post on Lemmy](https://lemmy.world/post/18432763). What's left are a few third-party /kbin instances whose admins may not even have noticed that /kbin is dead.

#[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Fediverse]Fediverse[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=%28streams%29](streams)[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=%2Fkbin]/kbin[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Firefish]Firefish[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Meme]Meme[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=FediMeme]FediMeme[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Fediverse%20Meme]Fediverse Meme[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=That%27s%20Cute]That's Cute[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Bitch%20Please]Bitch Please[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Swearing]Swearing[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Eye%20Contact]Eye Contact[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=Sensitive]Sensitive[/zrl] #[zrl=https://streams.elsmussols.net/search?tag=%E2%9A%A0%EF%B8%8F]⚠️[/zrl]
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