2026-03-15T13:17:10Z https://yabu.me Laurens Hof https://yabu.me/npub17m8z9gfl0t3x69ux50mfawyrpt4w5rkxsfaz9ckgvhp8y75t429q8drsw8 https://cdn.masto.host/indiewebsocial/accounts/avatars/111/223/410/473/029/141/original/3eda27d1479b2019.png https://cdn.masto.host/indiewebsocial/accounts/avatars/111/223/410/473/029/141/original/3eda27d1479b2019.png https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsxkqarmrzvweyu7rnqwjm9gsmq2gd6n5q9h8q5agz72qra2n0nzdgzyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5nterhp federation challenge: how does this work?<br/><br/>i made a post (note) on my wordpress account. its enabled with activitypub, and thus gets send out to the fediverse. My wordpress account gets followed by a Discourse forum. Someone on the Discourse forum replies with a note. I open the wordpress article with my main mastodon account. I see the discourse reply. I want to react, but with my personal mastodon account. <br/><br/>(cont) 2025-04-18T15:34:55Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqst6zfkrst7u3zyd277rmzt5p9zn5s3nx8emmx8nxktst3ryshdepszyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5lmnkcr Considering this post is going viral here and boosted by Mastodon&#39;s ceo:<br/><br/>What is mastodon.social&#39;s policy if it had received the same takedown request?<br/>Meaning if an account on mastodon.social was ordered to be taken down by a Turkish judge &#39;under Article 8/A of Law No. 5651, citing “national security and public order.”&#39;<br/><br/>More context on the request: <a href="https://bianet.org/haber/x-users-in-turkey-migrate-to-bluesky-amid-censorship-306189">https://bianet.org/haber/x-users-in-turkey-migrate-to-bluesky-amid-censorship-306189</a><br/><br/>cc <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1vl7jgjkprjrpytq0en63ss482a08aam0q5tr5nrwg4tdznvcvnaq44f6g0" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Eugen Rochko</span> (<span class="italic">npub1vl7…f6g0</span>)</a></span> <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub13za5kudj7vkherucztlpjjr7kzwcnu6y8xq5ta52dnlh2nq2dmmspz8j89" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Andy Piper</span> (<span class="italic">npub13za…8j89</span>)</a></span> <br/><br/><a href="https://mas.to/@osma/114346166890552471">https://mas.to/@osma/114346166890552471</a> 2025-04-16T11:00:04Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsq3n3aqr2rwn44kntcyrsha5zvdn4wyjmz9zr06frmme3ewykjgfszyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5ua78jv In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsv0efxxryhqk84jl66mkwtugjfv73kxuv5rgr6as7um2y62rqdzlgfjncvq'>nevent1q…ncvq</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>finally! 2025-02-01T17:13:30Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsgjh2kknwt958ec0kw0vsvxgnuxjq7c3tu8rmee4h6t974l9u48uszyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5hm3n8h In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswms8vx82m9h3fdn65raj256pjhytten08eclfzm8llx2kd4wtk6gruhjg5'>nevent1q…hjg5</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>i mean, a simple first step towards becoming more accountable would not be to post that you&#39;ll not do any interviews with any media<br/><br/>(think he deleted the post now(talking about accountability lol)) 2025-01-22T18:54:15Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs2xwnjuhk4aam4vsdnjuw3aqskalj69502d883e9qs629gcyahdxszyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5aykj7t the unaccountable leadership of the big tech platforms is bad! Please join our network with unaccountable leadership instead! 2025-01-22T18:28:56Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqspkzg9fk4l32p4u2vcx55vrgtdsh2hdw5xjst8ll3kw8uww0ru0pszyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5ydzhy6 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsrxuudrxpeh3fwg6d4kvc6wjgk8gmksgncspqa9cftgnsnza0cuxg5rh644'>nevent1q…h644</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>👀👀<br/><br/>It wasnt super clear from the blog announcement itself, but this implies that some form of community ownership is for consideration for the toplevel holding org?<br/><br/>also, great work, very important step for masto regardless, awesome you could help them push in this direction 2025-01-13T14:30:22Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs9eg2m8hf0h6k77regszfcpd0apuyhm2uaeapv55ya57wddxp4r6szyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5j2eldw A quick comparison between how people like Paul and Hailey can Post, versus how Eugen or the Lemmy devs post, as well as the active user numbers between these platforms make me just ever so slightly doubtful of this claim<br/><br/><a href="https://social.coop/@cwebber/113602196673345224">https://social.coop/@cwebber/113602196673345224</a> 2024-12-06T15:04:38Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsz9p8nu8rtxd6q73jt6ak9pukxt57lsfh8p4ftl4gum39mac0lw2szyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5fpjgye In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswlxzsyxadj0kzg7r97wvr7s3w2k4qug4xtq9h6w56lly20nxjavc9zz8j3'>nevent1q…z8j3</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>yeah this is correct, they get suspended on both the bsky appview and pds. 2024-12-03T22:44:47Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsyqf8gu7qnj3j7sexuvvh3r3am78uwe6vvua8wnqmft6vnd7pj3lczyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5evz6aj This is why I included a section on Mastodon in my article on how Bluesky is not distributed in a social sense. Its much easier to deal with on Bluesky because of the explicit nature of the centralisation points.<br/><br/>The fediverse is absolutely failing at decentralisation here: we are clearly centralised on one of the aspects that actually matter, and handed power over to a dictator-for-life who refuses accountability<br/><br/><a href="https://fediversereport.com/bluesky-decentralisation-and-the-distribution-of-power/">https://fediversereport.com/bluesky-decentralisation-and-the-distribution-of-power/</a><br/><br/><a href="https://social.polotek.net/@polotek/113524158302790957">https://social.polotek.net/@polotek/113524158302790957</a> 2024-11-22T12:19:49Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs2jv7r7vj884lhe7upughz49k0rtj906ecme2und42909sugzqm7qzyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5gjwm5p In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsw0udmn9yu0p0kg3nc293xaa70vzs7nljlfps93ud789ukjwsrccg4x0y87'>nevent1q…0y87</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Thats because atproto server is the wrong conceptualisation of how atproto works.<br/><br/>activitypub takes all the individual components (data storage, identity, aggregation, rendering) into a single server monolith. atproto takes all the components apart (pds, plc directory, relay, appview) and makes them individually available.<br/><br/>there are quite some (1k+) independent PDS&#39;s, a few backup plc dirs, ~20 relays, and 5+ appviews for other products 2024-10-23T08:27:23Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqstgpkmpdr9cxhjv5h2yjqnr230pvyxrmlvdw28zyvr0z543fm33nszyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5053raq i just dont understand why fedi does not seem to be talking about brazil potentially banning twitter in the next 12 hours 2024-08-29T14:00:04Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsq4p5jlcyqh42zdq4y2xtd7akxygpuawvgqk4vx4frpfvqmmke6dczyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5m3lfz3 latest update for #bluesky is legit:<br/>- detaching quote posts<br/>- disable quote posting per post<br/>- hide replies for everyone<br/><br/>bluesky is moving fast, and in the current phase the space of decentralised social network is in this matters<br/><a href="https://bsky.social/about/blog/08-28-2024-anti-toxicity-features">https://bsky.social/about/blog/08-28-2024-anti-toxicity-features</a> 2024-08-28T17:12:24Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsw79fkgmdd4307u5mkfteu7qc2ppq0akyu48kxrpzd9fnudzqdzeqzyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5kghyu3 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs00dzv295dducefcv78ta8mkwm7jxagajljtgmx437czht7qdjdwqrdxc23'>nevent1q…xc23</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>tagging <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1vwf82eadsf3484j2ckqz9gen7z9l89p80dzy6tavvyg2lt5p4jgql095aa" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Rimu</span> (<span class="italic">npub1vwf…95aa</span>)</a></span> for this, since piefed is probably the closest as theyve already got aguppe group support. So building support for a group that is currently seeing very active use might be interesting as well 2024-08-27T13:21:12Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs89cj7ghhagfwysuneq8usjl8clatcsx7sp9g57xm03dv7xa208gqzyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5mvljwx official french press release with charges against #telegram ceo Durav<br/><br/><a href="https://www.tribunal-de-paris.justice.fr/sites/default/files/2024-08/2024-08-26%20-%20CP%20TELEGRAM%20.pdf">https://www.tribunal-de-paris.justice.fr/sites/default/files/2024-08/2024-08-26%20-%20CP%20TELEGRAM%20.pdf</a><br/> <img src="https://cdn.masto.host/indiewebsocial/media_attachments/files/113/029/536/601/040/130/original/d67549535a43c7c2.png"> <br/> <img src="https://cdn.masto.host/indiewebsocial/media_attachments/files/113/029/536/580/090/774/original/f5263db0a03b4bcb.png"> <br/> 2024-08-26T17:37:38Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqswmzmpzpragypz8azxpr7pscgtmzpwrm0ldrsgrwld4muvknprkjszyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5aanjp6 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsgh4rauv8qyzr03qykg3x6emq6m5fgggagjynju37pamfape5pv4ck5js3h'>nevent1q…js3h</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>list with the MPs joining bluesky:<br/><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/samuel.bsky.team/post/3kzkd42yjn62b">https://bsky.app/profile/samuel.bsky.team/post/3kzkd42yjn62b</a> 2024-08-13T14:49:50Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsgh4rauv8qyzr03qykg3x6emq6m5fgggagjynju37pamfape5pv4czyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5thhnxn &#34;Now, Bluesky says it has seen a 60% jump in general activity from accounts in the UK, with several MPs also joining the platform recently.&#34;<br/><br/><a href="https://news.sky.com/story/bluesky-social-media-site-reports-surge-in-new-uk-users-after-elon-musks-riot-comments-13196374">https://news.sky.com/story/bluesky-social-media-site-reports-surge-in-new-uk-users-after-elon-musks-riot-comments-13196374</a> 2024-08-13T14:47:20Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsf3mf92sp2uy3n60s8tjp94urgufr06munwzndjeqx3l9g07a9r3czyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5vtdd6f In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsxyk7f6ts9mw9rmjge8vqapfz53pcgavhrg996pnc0kw9953c2hsc8tgu2g'>nevent1q…gu2g</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>also interesting that neither the <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1m96e7ycmmaz4ah7s8exw7x6vmumuccr0p9dxea64e5je89ty2yjsweag4y" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>European Commission</span> (<span class="italic">npub1m96…ag4y</span>)</a></span> nor <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/thierrybreton.bsky.social">https://bsky.app/profile/thierrybreton.bsky.social</a> posted about it on masto or bsky 2024-08-13T10:00:43Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsxyk7f6ts9mw9rmjge8vqapfz53pcgavhrg996pnc0kw9953c2hsczyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5qt4ujr In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsvs0hye4ddx64al37ltnmvx3wua8k96z7qztf5whkrnswh9pte60svludyn'>nevent1q…udyn</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>much bigger source of discussion on both nostr and farcaster, where people frame it as gov overreach/censorship, and iterate it as a need for anti-censorship platforms 2024-08-13T09:58:59Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsvs0hye4ddx64al37ltnmvx3wua8k96z7qztf5whkrnswh9pte60szyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5hjsv6c Social web observations:<br/><br/>On both bsky and fedi the decision by the EU to send a warning to X about misinformation and the DSA does not get a whole lot of traction anymore, and does not seem to have entered Discourse. Def used to be different in that people viewed such a thing as a potential migration wave towards either masto or fedi. Seems that people do not have that hope anymore. 2024-08-13T09:58:22Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsd5je0t5rhpncm5mfey7rpawxvalghnupn2n6d96kjskn8n8xhm2gzyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5x88f40 and the relentless march of phanpy continues<br/><br/><a href="https://mastodon.social/@_elena/112947480880544830">https://mastodon.social/@_elena/112947480880544830</a> 2024-08-12T07:28:35Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsv9jrfuk87g39djlltmauld0n06g868twka8nltstzzsg2nsrqhpszyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5zpv8w5 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqspp0q2f6vja00dlt3r3l6vkls9qcpzvq407wshkx0lltkahqvdhds6kc30g'>nevent1q…c30g</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>yeah ghost and buttondown are also good examples. all indicate a potential shift of ap-fedi towards longform content though, which would both be really good but also probably alter the network structure quite a bit<br/><br/>oh and if were talking innovative and ghost: Fedify is very much worth mentioning there, activitypub reaaally needed a good server framework 2024-07-05T22:38:12Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsvg0lyln5mf8gz7fjjg2fgt3a3hzx7cpjl8nazw7ql7fx44w70t6szyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5p2krjp In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsp78jq433fd7k05zmrazntzdjuna89tqd7z2pcv058c6yfzfwytxsj7eh25'>nevent1q…eh25</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>my biggest issue when i complain about a lack of innovation in fedi is actually a frustration that innovations by the other networks do not get seen as such, nor seen as something that ap-fedi should adopt and iterate on<br/><br/>for both custom feeds and custom moderation did bluesky evolve from what fedi could offer, and did farcaster iterate and alter on what bluesky offers. <br/><br/>that contextual awareness and interest in that its something to learn from is completely missing imo 2024-07-05T22:35:05Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs2w4xpnwdg8rmnvxdhlj5eu860nhj4nqmwlfu2hwj6gjrlmhwt3cgzyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5l6eath In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsg0flt2cea6309kgxthq6wjuet3jnhw064ke2er8sfdyluf2rfx8cdhvwju'>nevent1q…vwju</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>third party tools and clients for mastodon are permissionless, so that you see (and i agree) some cool innovation there makes sense<br/><br/>i see a lack of innovation in actual platforms that are product-ready. all fedi platforms are multiple years old at this point, and pretty much all bigtech platform clones. <br/><br/>Discourse/nodebb might bring some change tho<br/><br/>agreed that the innovation power in fedi comes from the esoteric shit like activitypods or stuff like Weird 2024-07-05T22:27:29Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqs87qgshwqan0a2k295wezq0gnery8zrrsex4hm6rq0vjp03yhapqczyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5enxxag In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqszn6anldkrvfpyhja82xz5vcmp6revdvpa4lxxyte30d87mhr22wqx53lyx'>nevent1q…3lyx</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>&#34;most of them were variations on people having their stuff moved outside of what they perceived to be the fediverse they joined? &#34;<br/><br/>yes, but thats exactly what makes it not permissionless imo<br/><br/>permissionless open social network is what farcaster does here: offering an indexer-as-a-service that will pipe the entire freaking network directly into your own database to do whatever you want with<br/><a href="https://warpcast.com/rish/0x1dc1ee78">https://warpcast.com/rish/0x1dc1ee78</a> 2024-07-05T22:15:38Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsthjswgll7j32hyq6s4qqzarrcnjyzjsu6lrzjp3rjw0fhnsu954qzyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5aqmxzl In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsr2s5kjg4d2x6c94ukg3edzu3n54c6eweu6kh9c8p38l2y46zs0hq7nrfed'>nevent1q…rfed</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>i think thats sort of the core of the problem:<br/>- its not permissionless because you are not allowed to do certain things on ap-fedi, and which things are verboten is not documented<br/>- its not permissioned, because there is no entity you can get approval from<br/><br/>think this conundrum explains a significant part of why fedi has been lacking in innovation imo 2024-07-05T21:58:35Z https://yabu.me/nevent1qqsp3gv5p7wlhrnhpl3uwn4archxsdus273phwhuresgmkzvxnvdhxqzyrmvug4p8aawymghs63ld84csv9w46swc6p85ghzepjuyun63w4g5tjsuxm In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsxmrpgm9j5y32uxatt37jgzrxkszn680tzwpuxtrjdsmecdarczyq499r5k'>nevent1q…9r5k</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>id argue that the activitypub side of the fediverse is the only open social protocol is the only one id argue is not permissionless. nostr, atproto and farcaster it definitely makes sense. But considering the amount of pushback you get on ap-fedi for going against social customs (see opt-in search for example) i dont think it feels permissionless. At least not in the way that nostr is permissionless, for example 2024-07-05T21:35:04Z