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      <title type="html">📅 Original date posted:2021-05-09 📝 Original ...</title>
    
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqsg2lzncqs0qyj4cu787x3nak4d2ty2pzazjr3gdf22986996vn27c5933l8&#39;&gt;nevent1q…33l8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;📅 Original date posted:2021-05-09&lt;br/&gt;📝 Original message:According to this paper:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cs.umd.edu/projects/coinscope/coinscope.pdf&#34;&gt;https://www.cs.umd.edu/projects/coinscope/coinscope.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;PoW is also only resilient to 1/3rd of the network.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 14:46, Eric Martindale via bitcoin-dev &amp;lt;&lt;br/&gt;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; Mr. Singh,&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; Proof of Stake is only resilient to ⅓ of the network demonstrating a&lt;br/&gt;Byzantine Fault, whilst Proof of Work is resilient up to the ½ threshold.&lt;br/&gt;You can explore prior research here:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/pos.pdf&#34;&gt;https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/pos.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; Independent of the security thresholds, Proof of Stake requires other&lt;br/&gt;trade-offs which are incompatible with Bitcoin&amp;#39;s objective (to be a&lt;br/&gt;trustless digital cash) — specifically the famous &amp;#34;security vs. liveness&amp;#34;&lt;br/&gt;guarantee.  Digital cash is not useful if it must be globally halted to&lt;br/&gt;ensure its security, and Proof of Work squarely addresses this concern.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; Above and beyond any security consideration, Proof of Stake incentivizes&lt;br/&gt;the accumulation of wealth within a small set of actors, which is&lt;br/&gt;undesirable for the long-term health of any such network.  If we are to&lt;br/&gt;free humanity from the tyranny of the State, we must do so by protecting&lt;br/&gt;the rights of every individual to hold and preserve their own value,&lt;br/&gt;without trusting any third party.  Entrusting the health of the network to&lt;br/&gt;the &amp;#34;economic elite&amp;#34; is the paramount evil with respect to Bitcoin&amp;#39;s&lt;br/&gt;objectives, nevermind that Proof of Work relies on energy expenditure to&lt;br/&gt;provide its security.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; Sincerely,&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; Eric Martindale, relentless maker.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; Founder &amp;amp; CEO, Fabric, Inc.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &#43;1 (919) 374-2020&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 6:50 PM SatoshiSingh via bitcoin-dev &amp;lt;&lt;br/&gt;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hello list,&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I am a lurker here and like many of you I worry about the energy usage&lt;br/&gt;of bitcoin mining. I understand a lot mining happens with renewable&lt;br/&gt;resources but the impact is still high.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I want to get your opinion on implementing proof of stake for bitcoin&lt;br/&gt;mining in future. For now, proof of stake is still untested and not battle&lt;br/&gt;tested like proof of work. Though someday it will be.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; In the following years we&amp;#39;ll be seeing proof of stake being implemented.&lt;br/&gt;Smaller networks can test PoS which is a luxury bitcoin can&amp;#39;t afford.&lt;br/&gt;Here&amp;#39;s how I see this the possibilities:&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 1 - Proof of stake isn&amp;#39;t a good enough security mechanism&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 2 - Proof of state is a good security mechanism and works as intended&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; IF PoS turns out to be good after battle testing, would you consider&lt;br/&gt;implementing it for Bitcoin? I understand this would invoke a lot of&lt;br/&gt;controversies and a hard fork that no one likes. But its important enough&lt;br/&gt;to consider a hard fork. What are your opinions provided PoS does work?&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Love from India.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; _______________________________________________&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&#34;https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#34;&gt;https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; _______________________________________________&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&#34;https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#34;&gt;https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-------------- next part --------------&lt;br/&gt;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&lt;br/&gt;URL: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20210509/120dd43f/attachment-0001.html&amp;gt&#34;&gt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20210509/120dd43f/attachment-0001.html&amp;gt&lt;/a&gt;;
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      <title type="html">📅 Original date posted:2021-05-09 📝 Original message:On ...</title>
    
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqswqlndura3rghn8vhkf9vngw5mkgxhsdwmgdwwuhswfc6tpa35swsu42p0g&#39;&gt;nevent1q…2p0g&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;📅 Original date posted:2021-05-09&lt;br/&gt;📝 Original message:On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 15:36, Karl via bitcoin-dev&lt;br/&gt;&amp;lt;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; Bitcoin would get better mainstream public reputation if the block reward were reduced to reduce mining.  This would quickly and easily reduce energy expenditure.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You&amp;#39;re in luck then, as the block reward is being reduced by 50%, every 4 years.
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