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  <title>Nostr notes by Richard Myers [ARCHIVE]</title>
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    <name>Richard Myers [ARCHIVE]</name>
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      <title type="html">📅 Original date posted:2022-04-24 📝 Original message:Hi ...</title>
    
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqst62vwckkrykyddgg56kvnt0y56gzgsml8xlurm8pgal6r3vru8xgxpw7qe&#39;&gt;nevent1q…w7qe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;📅 Original date posted:2022-04-24&lt;br/&gt;📝 Original message:Hi darosior,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; I would like to know people&amp;#39;s sentiment about doing (a very slightly tweaked version of) BIP118 in place of&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; (or before doing) BIP119.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sounds good to me. Although from an activation perspective it may not be either/or, both proposals do compete for scarce reviewer time so their ordering will necessarily be driven by reviewer&amp;#39;s priorities. My priority is eltoo which is why I focus on BIP-118.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;gt; SIGHASH_ANYPREVOUTANYSCRIPT, if its &amp;#34;ANYONECANPAY&amp;#34; behaviour is made optional [0], can emulate CTV just fine.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For someone not as versed in CTV, why is it necessary that ANYONECANPAY be optional to emulate CTV? Is there a write-up that explains how APO-AS w/out ANYONECANPAY approximates CTV?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In the case of eltoo commit txs, we use bring-your-own-fee (BYOF) to late-bind fees; that means ANYONECANPAY will always be paired with APO-AS for eltoo. Settlement txs in eltoo use just APO and do not necessarily need to be paired with ANYONECANPAY.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would guess making ANYONECANPAY the default for APO-AS was a way to squeeze in one more sighash flag. Perhaps there&amp;#39;s another way to do it?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Including SIGHASH_GROUP with APO for eltoo is also tempting. Specifically so the counter-party who commits a settlement tx can use for fees their settled to_self balance. How to rejigger the sighash flags to accommodate both APO and GROUP may be worth some discussion.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The BIP-118 proposal will certainly benefit from having input from reviewers looking at other protocols than eltoo.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  -- Richard
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